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Yes Reji Should be there in this list
Posted by Saji P Thomas, Pathanamthitta, India on 5 October 2009 at 11:56 UAE time
As some has commented already, why Mr.Reji Aban is omitted from the list. Hope that you will pay maximum care to avoid such ignorance in future. Anyway i wish all of the listed people a very bright future in their concerned fields.
Posted by Saji P Thomas, Pathanamthitta, India on 5 October 2009 at 11:56 UAE time
As some has commented already, why Mr.Reji Aban is omitted from the list. Hope that you will pay maximum care to avoid such ignorance in future. Anyway i wish all of the listed people a very bright future in their concerned fields.
Steven Lamprell Should be in the First Ten
Posted by Martin Joseph Moonjely, Cohin, India on 1 October 2009 at 13:33 UAE time
Being a great man by providing such a beautiful work atmosphere & rewards to his employees, he is well known and powerful in UAE. That is the reason why most of the people like to work in Lamprell Energy Ltd. Such an eminent personality should be the first in this list.
Posted by Martin Joseph Moonjely, Cohin, India on 1 October 2009 at 13:33 UAE time
Being a great man by providing such a beautiful work atmosphere & rewards to his employees, he is well known and powerful in UAE. That is the reason why most of the people like to work in Lamprell Energy Ltd. Such an eminent personality should be the first in this list.
Why Reji Aban is not included in the list
Posted by Martin Joseph Moonjely, Cochin, India on 1 October 2009 at 13:19 UAE time
How the most prominent person, who has a number of Oil Rigs based on Middile East and an inevitable employment provider in the Oil & Gas Industry is omitted from the List? i cant belive it, its really fun that the list contains a lot of undeserving people other Mr. Steven Lamprell who is realy Great.
Posted by Martin Joseph Moonjely, Cochin, India on 1 October 2009 at 13:19 UAE time
How the most prominent person, who has a number of Oil Rigs based on Middile East and an inevitable employment provider in the Oil & Gas Industry is omitted from the List? i cant belive it, its really fun that the list contains a lot of undeserving people other Mr. Steven Lamprell who is realy Great.
M A Yusuf Ali is greates Industrialist in the world
Posted by Badaruddeen k p, Calicut, India on 31 August 2009 at 12:33 UAE time
Because he provided social services for every people from bottom to top for every religion, every country
Posted by Badaruddeen k p, Calicut, India on 31 August 2009 at 12:33 UAE time
Because he provided social services for every people from bottom to top for every religion, every country
List made by an ignorant group
Posted by HM on 18 August 2009 at 13:14 UAE time
The miss out were really glaring. Probably the missed out personalities like Yusuf Ali, BR Shetty toghter with Sunny Varkey and Mickey could probable swallow the whole of the others by their influence in the GCC.
Posted by HM on 18 August 2009 at 13:14 UAE time
The miss out were really glaring. Probably the missed out personalities like Yusuf Ali, BR Shetty toghter with Sunny Varkey and Mickey could probable swallow the whole of the others by their influence in the GCC.
50 names without Yusuf Ali ?
Posted by NM Doha, Doha, Qatar on 16 August 2009 at 23:36 UAE time
How's that possible? Simply how's that possible ?
Posted by NM Doha, Doha, Qatar on 16 August 2009 at 23:36 UAE time
How's that possible? Simply how's that possible ?
About Seethraman
Posted by SG, Doha, Qatar on 13 August 2009 at 14:22 UAE time
I would like to point out a possible error about statement made in Seetharaman's details Quote " Quite apart from heading up the largest private commercial bank in Qatar" Unquote , Doha Bank is no more the largest commercial bank in Qatar in terms of any statistics. CBQ- Commercial Bank of Qatar is the largest PRIVATE BANK in qatar at present.
Posted by SG, Doha, Qatar on 13 August 2009 at 14:22 UAE time
I would like to point out a possible error about statement made in Seetharaman's details Quote " Quite apart from heading up the largest private commercial bank in Qatar" Unquote , Doha Bank is no more the largest commercial bank in Qatar in terms of any statistics. CBQ- Commercial Bank of Qatar is the largest PRIVATE BANK in qatar at present.
Un researched list
Posted by Irfan Ahmad Azhar on 12 August 2009 at 19:34 UAE time
It's surprising to see the list without the name of
Mr Salahuddin-MD ETA ASCON STAR GROUP
Mr B R Shetty-NMC
Mr Yousuf Ali-EMKE
Can you research again and publish a unbiased list.
Posted by Irfan Ahmad Azhar on 12 August 2009 at 19:34 UAE time
It's surprising to see the list without the name of
Mr Salahuddin-MD ETA ASCON STAR GROUP
Mr B R Shetty-NMC
Mr Yousuf Ali-EMKE
Can you research again and publish a unbiased list.
Incomplete
Posted by JJ, Doha, Qatar on 11 August 2009 at 13:05 UAE time
I agree with many that the list is incomplete. Where is Mr. Yousuf ali of the EMKE group (Lulu). I doubt if there would be on single personin the middle east who has not heard of Lulu. And he is also one of the Board of Directors in the cahmber of commerce. Does these not qualify him to be influential? He shoule be one among the first five or three rather, I believe.
Posted by JJ, Doha, Qatar on 11 August 2009 at 13:05 UAE time
I agree with many that the list is incomplete. Where is Mr. Yousuf ali of the EMKE group (Lulu). I doubt if there would be on single personin the middle east who has not heard of Lulu. And he is also one of the Board of Directors in the cahmber of commerce. Does these not qualify him to be influential? He shoule be one among the first five or three rather, I believe.
again
Posted by mah, qatar, india on 10 August 2009 at 13:14 UAE time
i went through the list AGAIN and it is funny to note two people one a officer from bahrain and another the vodafone chief in qatar. for your kind information vodafone has just strted operations here and is still not widely accepted. Then how come this gentleman is influential????? i have stayed in bahrain and never heard of the army man. I cannot understand how this man is influential . is it that he can decide when america has to invade bahrain????? REALY FUNNY LIST .....GO BACK TO THE SCHOOLS MY FRIENDS.
Posted by mah, qatar, india on 10 August 2009 at 13:14 UAE time
i went through the list AGAIN and it is funny to note two people one a officer from bahrain and another the vodafone chief in qatar. for your kind information vodafone has just strted operations here and is still not widely accepted. Then how come this gentleman is influential????? i have stayed in bahrain and never heard of the army man. I cannot understand how this man is influential . is it that he can decide when america has to invade bahrain????? REALY FUNNY LIST .....GO BACK TO THE SCHOOLS MY FRIENDS.
Rajen Arvind Kilachand of Dodsal
Posted by Yogesh Jain, Doha, Qatar on 10 August 2009 at 11:37 UAE time
Mr Rajen Arvind Kilachand - Owner of Dodsal group is missing - he is a leading enterpreneur and associated with many charitable societies in the world
Posted by Yogesh Jain, Doha, Qatar on 10 August 2009 at 11:37 UAE time
Mr Rajen Arvind Kilachand - Owner of Dodsal group is missing - he is a leading enterpreneur and associated with many charitable societies in the world
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Burman and Joshi
Posted by Media Monkey, Dubai, UAE on 9 August 2009 at 23:35 UAE time
Is this serious? These guys have had little or no influence on anything in the media sector. Just because they work in the region does not automatically mean they have influence!! Burman was a big name but ineffectual as he is smothered by the usual Qatari incompetence, I am sure you all realise that the ships figurehead does not decide which direction the crew sails in, and just because Joshi's name and accent suit doesn't mean he's a player.
Posted by Media Monkey, Dubai, UAE on 9 August 2009 at 23:35 UAE time
Is this serious? These guys have had little or no influence on anything in the media sector. Just because they work in the region does not automatically mean they have influence!! Burman was a big name but ineffectual as he is smothered by the usual Qatari incompetence, I am sure you all realise that the ships figurehead does not decide which direction the crew sails in, and just because Joshi's name and accent suit doesn't mean he's a player.
Property in new Dubai starting to recover
Posted by Mark, Dubai, UAE on 20 July 2009 at 09:25 UAE time
Honestly, what a load of tripe. Salaries are decreasing, expats are leaving, more property is coming on to the market - who is this expert that says prices are stabilising?
There must be at least 20-30% decrease to go before the end of the year. Even a layman like me knows this.
Posted by Mark, Dubai, UAE on 20 July 2009 at 09:25 UAE time
Honestly, what a load of tripe. Salaries are decreasing, expats are leaving, more property is coming on to the market - who is this expert that says prices are stabilising?
There must be at least 20-30% decrease to go before the end of the year. Even a layman like me knows this.
Biased list
Posted by Harich Kandpal, Muscat, Oman on 28 June 2009 at 16:40 UAE time
This list appears to be heavily biased in favor of expatriates from certain parts of world, with more emphasis on employed professionals rather then entrepreneurs who have taken risks and invested in the ME economies. ok please explain how the following are missing:
(1) Reference to Yousuf Ali of EMKE group
(2) Refernce to Landmark group of Micky J.
(3) Refernce to various expatriate businessmen running huge operations in various ME countries.
Posted by Harich Kandpal, Muscat, Oman on 28 June 2009 at 16:40 UAE time
This list appears to be heavily biased in favor of expatriates from certain parts of world, with more emphasis on employed professionals rather then entrepreneurs who have taken risks and invested in the ME economies. ok please explain how the following are missing:
(1) Reference to Yousuf Ali of EMKE group
(2) Refernce to Landmark group of Micky J.
(3) Refernce to various expatriate businessmen running huge operations in various ME countries.
50 most influential
Posted by David Gosling, Dubai, U.A.E on 22 June 2009 at 14:08 UAE time
What a load of nonsense. Everybody knows that the economy is driven by the construction industry and yet we see only 2 people from this field no designers or builders of our many fine buildings. Yet so many bankers and financial people who many will claim are responsible for the economic woes, not only in the UAE but throughout the world.
Posted by David Gosling, Dubai, U.A.E on 22 June 2009 at 14:08 UAE time
What a load of nonsense. Everybody knows that the economy is driven by the construction industry and yet we see only 2 people from this field no designers or builders of our many fine buildings. Yet so many bankers and financial people who many will claim are responsible for the economic woes, not only in the UAE but throughout the world.
Re:
Posted by Zafar, Dubai on 14 June 2009 at 13:54 UAE time
This list is biased - Key influential Indian are missing. These figures have made UAE their home for the past 30+ odd years.
Posted by Zafar, Dubai on 14 June 2009 at 13:54 UAE time
This list is biased - Key influential Indian are missing. These figures have made UAE their home for the past 30+ odd years.
Name missing in the list - Mr Syed M Salahuddin ETA - ASCON Group
Posted by Abdul Hameed, Chennai, India on 11 June 2009 at 07:29 UAE time
It is very stange that Mr. Syed M Salahuddin, Managing Director of ETA - ASCON - ETA Star Group is missing. He is headding more than 75000 employees in middle and they have operation in all parts of the worls. For more than 35 years they operate in UAE and middle east. Please provide fair list and not a list just for the purpose of publishing
Posted by Abdul Hameed, Chennai, India on 11 June 2009 at 07:29 UAE time
It is very stange that Mr. Syed M Salahuddin, Managing Director of ETA - ASCON - ETA Star Group is missing. He is headding more than 75000 employees in middle and they have operation in all parts of the worls. For more than 35 years they operate in UAE and middle east. Please provide fair list and not a list just for the purpose of publishing
Incomplete
Posted by Rauf, Dubai, UAE on 10 June 2009 at 23:14 UAE time
List is definitely incomplete. It must have included Dr. Nassir Saidi, Chief Economist from DIFC. He is definitely a very-very influential expat.
Posted by Rauf, Dubai, UAE on 10 June 2009 at 23:14 UAE time
List is definitely incomplete. It must have included Dr. Nassir Saidi, Chief Economist from DIFC. He is definitely a very-very influential expat.
i'm pruod
Posted by reshma bahri, tehran, iran on 6 June 2009 at 08:27 UAE time
i'm realy glad that an indian man is on of people in this list, how can i get some special news about this man?
Posted by reshma bahri, tehran, iran on 6 June 2009 at 08:27 UAE time
i'm realy glad that an indian man is on of people in this list, how can i get some special news about this man?
Well deserved
Posted by Joseph Ponnou, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 3 June 2009 at 16:15 UAE time
Congratulations to all those who made it to the top 50.
In response to some postings where the absence of Chabbria, B.R. Shetty and Yousef Ali have been highlighted, these gentlemen are, no doubt, major success stories in their own rights. But this list is about being "most influential" in the region.
Joseph Ponnou
http://www.prosumfzc.com
Posted by Joseph Ponnou, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 3 June 2009 at 16:15 UAE time
Congratulations to all those who made it to the top 50.
In response to some postings where the absence of Chabbria, B.R. Shetty and Yousef Ali have been highlighted, these gentlemen are, no doubt, major success stories in their own rights. But this list is about being "most influential" in the region.
Joseph Ponnou
http://www.prosumfzc.com
Where is Yousef Ali
Posted by Sandeep on 1 June 2009 at 18:50 UAE time
Its strange to not see Yousef Ali of the Emke group in this list.
Posted by Sandeep on 1 June 2009 at 18:50 UAE time
Its strange to not see Yousef Ali of the Emke group in this list.
Where is Yousef Ali of EMkee Group
Posted by Mohan, Dubai, UAE on 30 May 2009 at 23:04 UAE time
Hi,
I think this list is not complete, people like M A Yousef Ali, of EMKE group should have been in the list, he has got more than 10000 employees and same case for B R Shetty of UAE Exchange
Posted by Mohan, Dubai, UAE on 30 May 2009 at 23:04 UAE time
Hi,
I think this list is not complete, people like M A Yousef Ali, of EMKE group should have been in the list, he has got more than 10000 employees and same case for B R Shetty of UAE Exchange
Used to be an Expat in the UAE
Posted by Baron Empire, Washington DC, USA on 30 May 2009 at 06:18 UAE time
I used to live in Dubai, but I sold my company and left for the USA despite people telling me I was crazy. Behind the glitz I could see there was no lure for long term prospects and a long term plan. Banks were almost impossible to get small business loans from and the govt no help at all. Now I have been in the US only 3 years. I have my green card, a business (successful) and I will be a citizen in maybe 6 years. I have business loans and despite the recession I can see a long and prosperous future here. I have had many offers to return, but I believe there is no substitute for democracy, freedom and the promise of America. Good luck to all of you.
Posted by Baron Empire, Washington DC, USA on 30 May 2009 at 06:18 UAE time
I used to live in Dubai, but I sold my company and left for the USA despite people telling me I was crazy. Behind the glitz I could see there was no lure for long term prospects and a long term plan. Banks were almost impossible to get small business loans from and the govt no help at all. Now I have been in the US only 3 years. I have my green card, a business (successful) and I will be a citizen in maybe 6 years. I have business loans and despite the recession I can see a long and prosperous future here. I have had many offers to return, but I believe there is no substitute for democracy, freedom and the promise of America. Good luck to all of you.
Dr Nabeel
Posted by The Consultant, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 28 May 2009 at 09:06 UAE time
The original basis of your complaint was about expatriates (which would include workers and business owners) remitting funds (i.e. their suplus income) out of the country on a monthly basis. Why this has suddenly morphed into a discussion about repatriation of business capital I'm not sure, but regardless the truth is the same.
There are no restrictions on repatriation of capital by foreign business owners in the US or most other developed countries. The only conditions are that you pay all due taxes and comply with standard anti-money laundering procedures. For foreign-owned businesses in the US, as in the UAE, when the time comes for the owner to go home, you sell up and take your money with you.
Posted by The Consultant, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 28 May 2009 at 09:06 UAE time
The original basis of your complaint was about expatriates (which would include workers and business owners) remitting funds (i.e. their suplus income) out of the country on a monthly basis. Why this has suddenly morphed into a discussion about repatriation of business capital I'm not sure, but regardless the truth is the same.
There are no restrictions on repatriation of capital by foreign business owners in the US or most other developed countries. The only conditions are that you pay all due taxes and comply with standard anti-money laundering procedures. For foreign-owned businesses in the US, as in the UAE, when the time comes for the owner to go home, you sell up and take your money with you.
The Consultant
Posted by Dr Nabeel, Dubai, UAE on 28 May 2009 at 00:43 UAE time
Unfortunately, you still did not get my point. I said "Business Owners" can't transfer their wealth, and not workers like you and me. Let me give you an example.
Imagine for a second if, during the econmic downturn, all foreign invetsors have moved their wealth outside the US, what would have happened to the American econmoy? IT WILL COLLAPSE. The US laws and regulations do not allow an immediate transfer of wealth abroad. It makes sense because it is a matter of national security.
Posted by Dr Nabeel, Dubai, UAE on 28 May 2009 at 00:43 UAE time
Unfortunately, you still did not get my point. I said "Business Owners" can't transfer their wealth, and not workers like you and me. Let me give you an example.
Imagine for a second if, during the econmic downturn, all foreign invetsors have moved their wealth outside the US, what would have happened to the American econmoy? IT WILL COLLAPSE. The US laws and regulations do not allow an immediate transfer of wealth abroad. It makes sense because it is a matter of national security.
Dr. Nabeel
Posted by The Consultant, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 27 May 2009 at 18:16 UAE time
Dr. Nabeel, you appear to be confused - in most Western countries there is no restriction on transferring funds abroad. Generally the only condition is that citizens must declare income from overseas investments for tax purposes - but as there is no personal income tax in the UAE this point is not directly comparable.
Expatriate workers (the target of your original comment) can and do send money to their home countries on a regular basis. In that respect there is no difference between expats in the West and expats in the GCC and expatriate workers in the UAE should not be criticised for doing so; the reason for most people coming here is to support family members back home and/or to build up some savings for later in life. As long as the UAE needs the workers, the relationship is mutually beneficial and by definition a "guest worker" will leave eventually, taking their savings with them.
Posted by The Consultant, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 27 May 2009 at 18:16 UAE time
Dr. Nabeel, you appear to be confused - in most Western countries there is no restriction on transferring funds abroad. Generally the only condition is that citizens must declare income from overseas investments for tax purposes - but as there is no personal income tax in the UAE this point is not directly comparable.
Expatriate workers (the target of your original comment) can and do send money to their home countries on a regular basis. In that respect there is no difference between expats in the West and expats in the GCC and expatriate workers in the UAE should not be criticised for doing so; the reason for most people coming here is to support family members back home and/or to build up some savings for later in life. As long as the UAE needs the workers, the relationship is mutually beneficial and by definition a "guest worker" will leave eventually, taking their savings with them.
Reality
Posted by Dr Nabeel, Dubai, UAE on 27 May 2009 at 16:19 UAE time
'Business owners' in western countries are not allowed to transfer their wealth outside the country, because it damages the conomy. Now you get my point.
Posted by Dr Nabeel, Dubai, UAE on 27 May 2009 at 16:19 UAE time
'Business owners' in western countries are not allowed to transfer their wealth outside the country, because it damages the conomy. Now you get my point.
Who is to Blame Mr. Nabeel ?
Posted by Peter Peter, dubai, UAE on 27 May 2009 at 12:38 UAE time
Mr. Nabeel misses the picture completely.
Why do expats send money out ? Here's why :
Even after being born here expats have no permanent residency , leave alone citizenship
Even after slogging to set up their businesses , there is always a Local partner who owns 51% without investing a single dirham or spending a single day the shop.
Until recently expats could not own anything. Even after being allowed to own property in recent years there is no guarantee they will be allowed to retire in peace here. First residence visas were promised to entice people to invest here. Then they were withdrawn. Now they are being offered again with conditions that will keep a large percentage ineligible. Even the current laws can change overnight and there is no "guarantee" of any protection for any expat's investment as can be seen today.
Unless these laws and conditions change and unless the authorities can assure the expats that they are welcome, that their interests will be protected and that they can enjoy long term residency for them selves AND their families do not expect the expats to keep their money here.
Posted by Peter Peter, dubai, UAE on 27 May 2009 at 12:38 UAE time
Mr. Nabeel misses the picture completely.
Why do expats send money out ? Here's why :
Even after being born here expats have no permanent residency , leave alone citizenship
Even after slogging to set up their businesses , there is always a Local partner who owns 51% without investing a single dirham or spending a single day the shop.
Until recently expats could not own anything. Even after being allowed to own property in recent years there is no guarantee they will be allowed to retire in peace here. First residence visas were promised to entice people to invest here. Then they were withdrawn. Now they are being offered again with conditions that will keep a large percentage ineligible. Even the current laws can change overnight and there is no "guarantee" of any protection for any expat's investment as can be seen today.
Unless these laws and conditions change and unless the authorities can assure the expats that they are welcome, that their interests will be protected and that they can enjoy long term residency for them selves AND their families do not expect the expats to keep their money here.
TOP 50 EXPATS
Posted by Buddhadeb Mookerjee, Dubai, UAE on 27 May 2009 at 10:18 UAE time
It is good to see quite a few Indians making the list. At the same time the omission of some prominent Indians from the list is surprising. Chhabrias (Jumbo Group), Shetttys (NMC Group) are examples. If the criteria for listing is made known it would help better appreciation of the listed persons.
Posted by Buddhadeb Mookerjee, Dubai, UAE on 27 May 2009 at 10:18 UAE time
It is good to see quite a few Indians making the list. At the same time the omission of some prominent Indians from the list is surprising. Chhabrias (Jumbo Group), Shetttys (NMC Group) are examples. If the criteria for listing is made known it would help better appreciation of the listed persons.
Dr. Nabeel
Posted by The Consultant, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 26 May 2009 at 16:44 UAE time
Fair's fair, Dr Nabeel - the money that is being sent out of the country by expatriates every month, where do you think it came from in the first place? Either from foreign companies buying UAE oil, or from foreign tourists spending their money in the country, or from foreign investors buying property in the country (not many of the latter two at the moment, admittedly).
The UAE, and Dubai in particular, is a hub for regional trade and money has to flow in and out for this to work. To suggest that expatriates remitting the little money they can save after paying for their living costs is somehow "taking advantage" of the UAE is a little blinkered, to say the least. If anyone is being taken advantage of, it's the labourers, office boys and other low-paid wage slaves that do all the dirty jobs for a pittance each month.
Posted by The Consultant, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 26 May 2009 at 16:44 UAE time
Fair's fair, Dr Nabeel - the money that is being sent out of the country by expatriates every month, where do you think it came from in the first place? Either from foreign companies buying UAE oil, or from foreign tourists spending their money in the country, or from foreign investors buying property in the country (not many of the latter two at the moment, admittedly).
The UAE, and Dubai in particular, is a hub for regional trade and money has to flow in and out for this to work. To suggest that expatriates remitting the little money they can save after paying for their living costs is somehow "taking advantage" of the UAE is a little blinkered, to say the least. If anyone is being taken advantage of, it's the labourers, office boys and other low-paid wage slaves that do all the dirty jobs for a pittance each month.
Reality...
Posted by Dr Nabeel, Dubai, UAE on 26 May 2009 at 12:36 UAE time
Let me say two things here:
1. For the expacts who made lots of money and 'helped' the economy, where is their money? Billions of dirhams is being sent outside the country every month, mainly by Indians. How can this be 'helping' the economy. They simply taking advantags of the good will of government.
2. How about compiling a list of the top 50/100 technologiests/scientists/Artist who contributed to the life in the UAE.
Posted by Dr Nabeel, Dubai, UAE on 26 May 2009 at 12:36 UAE time
Let me say two things here:
1. For the expacts who made lots of money and 'helped' the economy, where is their money? Billions of dirhams is being sent outside the country every month, mainly by Indians. How can this be 'helping' the economy. They simply taking advantags of the good will of government.
2. How about compiling a list of the top 50/100 technologiests/scientists/Artist who contributed to the life in the UAE.
50 influential expat
Posted by Mukri ishrat anjum, Doha, Qatar on 26 May 2009 at 00:56 UAE time
Thanks for providing the list of 50 most Influential Expat.
I wish very soon Indian will fairly influence this list in near future.
Best of Luck for all the personalities whose names are included in the list this year. Next year we will dominate.
Posted by Mukri ishrat anjum, Doha, Qatar on 26 May 2009 at 00:56 UAE time
Thanks for providing the list of 50 most Influential Expat.
I wish very soon Indian will fairly influence this list in near future.
Best of Luck for all the personalities whose names are included in the list this year. Next year we will dominate.
Methodology?
Posted by AJ on 26 May 2009 at 00:15 UAE time
So basically you 14 decide who are the top 50 based on who YOU think deserves it or not? Your methodology speaks of that and that only.
Well, I guess you guys deserve it after all the hardship and knowledge you put into your work.
Great job. Keep it up Arabianbusiness.com
Posted by AJ on 26 May 2009 at 00:15 UAE time
So basically you 14 decide who are the top 50 based on who YOU think deserves it or not? Your methodology speaks of that and that only.
Well, I guess you guys deserve it after all the hardship and knowledge you put into your work.
Great job. Keep it up Arabianbusiness.com
mr.naqvi's acheivments
Posted by mrs.aatif, ajman, uae on 25 May 2009 at 23:59 UAE time
wen i got a mail ''50 MOST INFLUENTIAL EXPATRIATES OF U.A.E'' n in this list i found Mr.Naqvi 4rm PAKISTAN .i am feeling very proud.God bless u n may u achieve more awards.
Posted by mrs.aatif, ajman, uae on 25 May 2009 at 23:59 UAE time
wen i got a mail ''50 MOST INFLUENTIAL EXPATRIATES OF U.A.E'' n in this list i found Mr.Naqvi 4rm PAKISTAN .i am feeling very proud.God bless u n may u achieve more awards.
Basic stats folks
Posted by ADJ on 25 May 2009 at 18:27 UAE time
There are by numbers simply more Indians in the GCC region than any other nationality or race. Which is why you have more Indians eating out, more Indians driving cabs, more Indians involved in road accidents, more Indians investing in property and more Indians at the top end of the list! Thats it. Whats so confusing? Unless someone here identifies being Indian with working as a construction labourer....now that just would be stupid, wouldnt it?
Posted by ADJ on 25 May 2009 at 18:27 UAE time
There are by numbers simply more Indians in the GCC region than any other nationality or race. Which is why you have more Indians eating out, more Indians driving cabs, more Indians involved in road accidents, more Indians investing in property and more Indians at the top end of the list! Thats it. Whats so confusing? Unless someone here identifies being Indian with working as a construction labourer....now that just would be stupid, wouldnt it?
Sally from Philadelphia....
Posted by Vishal, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 15:02 UAE time
....you are my heroine for pointing that out :-) Finally someone who can overcome bias and point out the truth about Indians!
Posted by Vishal, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 15:02 UAE time
....you are my heroine for pointing that out :-) Finally someone who can overcome bias and point out the truth about Indians!
Please get it right!!!
Posted by Riyaz Sultan Sajan, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 12:20 UAE time
Being living and working in the UAE since 1981, i always believed in learning and earning. This is our home because we've grown here and started our careers in this beautiful Dubai & Sharjah. Having known quite alot of influential figures in this region amongst expats, i guess u have missed out on some names who have helped the economy and fellow expats.
Posted by Riyaz Sultan Sajan, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 12:20 UAE time
Being living and working in the UAE since 1981, i always believed in learning and earning. This is our home because we've grown here and started our careers in this beautiful Dubai & Sharjah. Having known quite alot of influential figures in this region amongst expats, i guess u have missed out on some names who have helped the economy and fellow expats.
Expat 50
Posted by Vik, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 12:07 UAE time
I personally know some of these top Indians so congrats to them. Some may have been left out but then this could also be possible for other nationalities.
When I moved to Dubai in 1995 after having lived in Singapore and Indonesia I was astonished to find the perception of Indians in the Gulf, in general. Indians held top positions in companies in the Far East and similarly they do in Europe and USA. See the latest Forbes list as well. When I played golf at the Creek Club in 1995 with an Irishman who was visiting he told me that I was lucky to play golf. I told him that just because there was a preponderance of Indian labourers in the Gulf did not mean that I was lucky to be the head of a multinational and able to play golf. I explained that there were a lot of rich and poor people in our country. Yes, we are optimistic that the poor will come out of poverty and this has been happening. Talk about the recession, lots of people are in trouble all over the world.
As regards ZM, I feel sad that people like him have this myopic view about Indians which I think emanates out of his limited experience with his colleagues in a small localised environment. I was also heading a multinational in the U.S. where different nationalities had to be handled deftly so I partly understand personal biases.
Well to each his own. I certainly am proud of my country and the ability of Indians of which I along with my friends and many countrymen are good examples of being good decision makers and successful people. Similarly, I know a lot of successful and smart people be they Arabs, Americans or Europeans. Sure, while success has many fathers, jealousy is something that one has to live with.
The world has become smaller and "the times they are a changing" - Bob Dylan. The world is my home and my people. Look at Barack Obama. Success should be saluted and good qualities emulated whether the person or persons are from Europe, USA or Asia etc. Lists will always be debated. One should try and be a part of the list rather than just discuss about the successful people in there.
My mother told me when I was a kid " the intelligent people think about ideas, innovations, poetry etc., the average people talk about events and the below average people talk about people.
Perhaps I had to come down to the third level for a bit. Apologies mom, but had to do it this time.
Posted by Vik, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 12:07 UAE time
I personally know some of these top Indians so congrats to them. Some may have been left out but then this could also be possible for other nationalities.
When I moved to Dubai in 1995 after having lived in Singapore and Indonesia I was astonished to find the perception of Indians in the Gulf, in general. Indians held top positions in companies in the Far East and similarly they do in Europe and USA. See the latest Forbes list as well. When I played golf at the Creek Club in 1995 with an Irishman who was visiting he told me that I was lucky to play golf. I told him that just because there was a preponderance of Indian labourers in the Gulf did not mean that I was lucky to be the head of a multinational and able to play golf. I explained that there were a lot of rich and poor people in our country. Yes, we are optimistic that the poor will come out of poverty and this has been happening. Talk about the recession, lots of people are in trouble all over the world.
As regards ZM, I feel sad that people like him have this myopic view about Indians which I think emanates out of his limited experience with his colleagues in a small localised environment. I was also heading a multinational in the U.S. where different nationalities had to be handled deftly so I partly understand personal biases.
Well to each his own. I certainly am proud of my country and the ability of Indians of which I along with my friends and many countrymen are good examples of being good decision makers and successful people. Similarly, I know a lot of successful and smart people be they Arabs, Americans or Europeans. Sure, while success has many fathers, jealousy is something that one has to live with.
The world has become smaller and "the times they are a changing" - Bob Dylan. The world is my home and my people. Look at Barack Obama. Success should be saluted and good qualities emulated whether the person or persons are from Europe, USA or Asia etc. Lists will always be debated. One should try and be a part of the list rather than just discuss about the successful people in there.
My mother told me when I was a kid " the intelligent people think about ideas, innovations, poetry etc., the average people talk about events and the below average people talk about people.
Perhaps I had to come down to the third level for a bit. Apologies mom, but had to do it this time.
To those who are “missing” Arabs: one word for you…READ
Posted by Zaidan, Sharjah, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 11:15 UAE time
In the very first line of this article the editor has wrote” Over the past five years, we have brought you the power list, our exclusive guide to the world’s most influential Arabs. So welcome to the Power List 2 — one with a difference.” So the list in hand is number two with list number one is dedicated for Arabs or at least GCC citizens who are –believe it or not – also Arabs. So for those who are missing the Arabs from this list whether in good intent or bad intent, you got it all wrong and you don’t need to “worry”.
Posted by Zaidan, Sharjah, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 11:15 UAE time
In the very first line of this article the editor has wrote” Over the past five years, we have brought you the power list, our exclusive guide to the world’s most influential Arabs. So welcome to the Power List 2 — one with a difference.” So the list in hand is number two with list number one is dedicated for Arabs or at least GCC citizens who are –believe it or not – also Arabs. So for those who are missing the Arabs from this list whether in good intent or bad intent, you got it all wrong and you don’t need to “worry”.
Should Revise the Wrong List
Posted by Siraj, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 09:18 UAE time
The first time ever Gulf’s 50 most influential expatriates list is entirely wrong. I don’t understand about your Beach Mark. However you can’t miss Mr. Yusuf Ali. M.A. Managing Director of EMKE Group (Lulu Hyper Markets (all over G C C), Emirates General Market, Emke Stores, Al Thayeb Stores, Space Travels Etc)Moreover he is not only influential person in largest Subcontinent Expatriates but also in UAE businesses community. He is the first ever elected director bard member of Abu Dhabi. Please visit www.yusuffali.com for more details.
Other prominent missing personalities are Mr. Mohamed Ali, GULFAR Oman and GCC, Dr. B.R. Shetty (NMC Group, UAE Exchange Center, Food Lands restaurants, etc. ), Dr. Azad Moopn of MOOPAN’s Group.
I request you to revise the list with omitted prominent members. Don’t stick with wrong list.
Posted by Siraj, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 09:18 UAE time
The first time ever Gulf’s 50 most influential expatriates list is entirely wrong. I don’t understand about your Beach Mark. However you can’t miss Mr. Yusuf Ali. M.A. Managing Director of EMKE Group (Lulu Hyper Markets (all over G C C), Emirates General Market, Emke Stores, Al Thayeb Stores, Space Travels Etc)Moreover he is not only influential person in largest Subcontinent Expatriates but also in UAE businesses community. He is the first ever elected director bard member of Abu Dhabi. Please visit www.yusuffali.com for more details.
Other prominent missing personalities are Mr. Mohamed Ali, GULFAR Oman and GCC, Dr. B.R. Shetty (NMC Group, UAE Exchange Center, Food Lands restaurants, etc. ), Dr. Azad Moopn of MOOPAN’s Group.
I request you to revise the list with omitted prominent members. Don’t stick with wrong list.
Geraint
Posted by Sarah, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 09:16 UAE time
Ah, Geraint. A man with far too much time on his hands. Let us compare the number of Lebanese who define themselves as Phoenician with those who feel they are Arab. (I'm a little amused to hear you mention "educated circles", since it is clear you do not frequent them.) Joe Ghossoub, for example - your first example - defines himself as Lebanese. Hence he appears on the Power 100. If he has no problem with this, why do you?
Posted by Sarah, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 09:16 UAE time
Ah, Geraint. A man with far too much time on his hands. Let us compare the number of Lebanese who define themselves as Phoenician with those who feel they are Arab. (I'm a little amused to hear you mention "educated circles", since it is clear you do not frequent them.) Joe Ghossoub, for example - your first example - defines himself as Lebanese. Hence he appears on the Power 100. If he has no problem with this, why do you?
Politics
Posted by Anonymous, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 09:07 UAE time
Just to add to all the above, dont forget that nationality and politics has it's own impact within the GCC and therefore that is why i beleive there are fewer arabs on the top list; nontheless other factors might be determining also!
Posted by Anonymous, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 09:07 UAE time
Just to add to all the above, dont forget that nationality and politics has it's own impact within the GCC and therefore that is why i beleive there are fewer arabs on the top list; nontheless other factors might be determining also!
power list
Posted by Alexander Philip, Dubai on 25 May 2009 at 09:04 UAE time
Why do enlarge Indians out of the list. Other nationality do perform.
Posted by Alexander Philip, Dubai on 25 May 2009 at 09:04 UAE time
Why do enlarge Indians out of the list. Other nationality do perform.
Mr.Sunny Varkey is influential?
Posted by Syed on 25 May 2009 at 08:06 UAE time
In which way Mr.Sunny Varkey is influential? Is he influential in increasing unjustified school fees without any smack? or is he influential in creating his own transport company and fooling parents that he is outsourcing. Come on guys wake-up.... I doubt your biased survey
Posted by Syed on 25 May 2009 at 08:06 UAE time
In which way Mr.Sunny Varkey is influential? Is he influential in increasing unjustified school fees without any smack? or is he influential in creating his own transport company and fooling parents that he is outsourcing. Come on guys wake-up.... I doubt your biased survey
Forgotten hero's
Posted by angelo, Oud Metha, United Arab Emirates on 25 May 2009 at 07:29 UAE time
It strikes me as strange that persons like Mohamed Chahwan; Azam Suker, Mark Warrington, Elias Magrath plus others who's efforts have made massive changes in the region that have saved many lives don't get mentioned in these lists - not names that readily spring to mind, but are some of the top men in the world of Safety management in the region.
Posted by angelo, Oud Metha, United Arab Emirates on 25 May 2009 at 07:29 UAE time
It strikes me as strange that persons like Mohamed Chahwan; Azam Suker, Mark Warrington, Elias Magrath plus others who's efforts have made massive changes in the region that have saved many lives don't get mentioned in these lists - not names that readily spring to mind, but are some of the top men in the world of Safety management in the region.
Forgotten hero's
Posted by angelo, Oud Metha, United Arab Emirates on 25 May 2009 at 07:28 UAE time
It strikes me as strange that persons like Mohamed Chahwan; Azam Suker, Mark Warrington, Elias Magrath plus others who's efforts have made massive changes in the region that have saved many lives don't get mentioned in these lists - not names that readily spring to mind, but are some of the top men in the world of Safety management in the region.
Posted by angelo, Oud Metha, United Arab Emirates on 25 May 2009 at 07:28 UAE time
It strikes me as strange that persons like Mohamed Chahwan; Azam Suker, Mark Warrington, Elias Magrath plus others who's efforts have made massive changes in the region that have saved many lives don't get mentioned in these lists - not names that readily spring to mind, but are some of the top men in the world of Safety management in the region.
Mr favoritism- you have a bigoted approach
Posted by equaloppurtunityman, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 07:22 UAE time
You should realise that more than 50% of the expats are from India. The relationship between India and the middle east dates before the times you and i were born and walked this earth. This list is about expats, and tough luck mate, if Arabs have not made it to this list, it reflects on their inability to make a point in their approach. It also implies a potential flaw in their approach, probably, others dont trust them enough? Why- may I ask? Therefore, instead of being chauvinistic, try and take a balanced approach, and you will find the better side of things. all the best
Posted by equaloppurtunityman, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 07:22 UAE time
You should realise that more than 50% of the expats are from India. The relationship between India and the middle east dates before the times you and i were born and walked this earth. This list is about expats, and tough luck mate, if Arabs have not made it to this list, it reflects on their inability to make a point in their approach. It also implies a potential flaw in their approach, probably, others dont trust them enough? Why- may I ask? Therefore, instead of being chauvinistic, try and take a balanced approach, and you will find the better side of things. all the best
Small point to be noted..
Posted by Arabia99, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 06:21 UAE time
What the non-GCC national editors and non-GCC national commetators have failed to grasp is that the most important people in this region are the rulers and their people, without whom most of these "influential" expatriates would still be the nobodies that all of them started out life as. Patting each other on the back is pretty pitiful.
Posted by Arabia99, Dubai, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 06:21 UAE time
What the non-GCC national editors and non-GCC national commetators have failed to grasp is that the most important people in this region are the rulers and their people, without whom most of these "influential" expatriates would still be the nobodies that all of them started out life as. Patting each other on the back is pretty pitiful.
Top Indian Expats .....
Posted by H.Dadlani, Tehran, Iran on 25 May 2009 at 06:15 UAE time
Whatever the other's want to say ... let them do so .
From my side , I would like to congratulate all the 6 of
you and hope you grow day by day , hour by hour .....
Keep on going ....
Posted by H.Dadlani, Tehran, Iran on 25 May 2009 at 06:15 UAE time
Whatever the other's want to say ... let them do so .
From my side , I would like to congratulate all the 6 of
you and hope you grow day by day , hour by hour .....
Keep on going ....
Sham list
Posted by jm on 25 May 2009 at 05:13 UAE time
Ha Ha Ha Ha - The list has Doha Bank CEO Seetharaman as one of the most influential expatriates. The only influence I've seen has been his influence with one of the newspapersin Qatar where his photograph appears regularly. Even that influence has waned after the bank took a nosedive during the current economic crisis and had the government investment bodies such as the QIA buy out billions of bad debt.
Posted by jm on 25 May 2009 at 05:13 UAE time
Ha Ha Ha Ha - The list has Doha Bank CEO Seetharaman as one of the most influential expatriates. The only influence I've seen has been his influence with one of the newspapersin Qatar where his photograph appears regularly. Even that influence has waned after the bank took a nosedive during the current economic crisis and had the government investment bodies such as the QIA buy out billions of bad debt.
Where are the Expats in Saudi from the list ??
Posted by ZM, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on 25 May 2009 at 04:48 UAE time
Out of curiosity, I wonder why the first expat in Saudi Arabia appear in the 30th position. We do understand that the Saudi business people dominate Saudi corporates comparing to their pears in the GCC, but there are also many influential expects in literally all sectors. Funny enough, most of struggling firms in the Emirates have their senior expats on the list.
This proves the naivety of voters on AB as they have minimum outlook on the 55% GCC GDP economy. Just wanted to open eyes in that respect.
For the Indians who think it's a racial vote, I would strongly disagree. Indians are smart, hard working, and intelligent people, but I wouldn't bet on their decision making ability, working in teams or their managerial skills, therefore we would see less of them on the top list. Western expats definitely dominate in that arena. And we will definitely not see much of Lebanese or Egyptians in the top 50, I’ll leave that to you to decide the reasons, will provide you with one “bureaucracy”.
This is my personal opinion.
Posted by ZM, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on 25 May 2009 at 04:48 UAE time
Out of curiosity, I wonder why the first expat in Saudi Arabia appear in the 30th position. We do understand that the Saudi business people dominate Saudi corporates comparing to their pears in the GCC, but there are also many influential expects in literally all sectors. Funny enough, most of struggling firms in the Emirates have their senior expats on the list.
This proves the naivety of voters on AB as they have minimum outlook on the 55% GCC GDP economy. Just wanted to open eyes in that respect.
For the Indians who think it's a racial vote, I would strongly disagree. Indians are smart, hard working, and intelligent people, but I wouldn't bet on their decision making ability, working in teams or their managerial skills, therefore we would see less of them on the top list. Western expats definitely dominate in that arena. And we will definitely not see much of Lebanese or Egyptians in the top 50, I’ll leave that to you to decide the reasons, will provide you with one “bureaucracy”.
This is my personal opinion.
Clarification of title
Posted by Hani, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates on 25 May 2009 at 03:13 UAE time
I do not want to argue as to who is on the list but rather the title of the list. Let me start with the definition of expatriate: A person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. That means whether or not an "Arab" power list was published a few months back, ABs exclusion of Arabs from this list alone makes the title irrelevant. Any person residing in the UAE without a passport is considered an expat, so maybe a change in title to Non-arab expat power 50 would be more suitable.
Regarding those who mentioned H.E. Yousef Ali as being the only expat on the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce, you should note he is accompanied on that board by H.E. Kamille Sarieddine, another expat living in the U.A.E.
Posted by Hani, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates on 25 May 2009 at 03:13 UAE time
I do not want to argue as to who is on the list but rather the title of the list. Let me start with the definition of expatriate: A person temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of the person's upbringing or legal residence. That means whether or not an "Arab" power list was published a few months back, ABs exclusion of Arabs from this list alone makes the title irrelevant. Any person residing in the UAE without a passport is considered an expat, so maybe a change in title to Non-arab expat power 50 would be more suitable.
Regarding those who mentioned H.E. Yousef Ali as being the only expat on the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce, you should note he is accompanied on that board by H.E. Kamille Sarieddine, another expat living in the U.A.E.
Power List?- more like boring list
Posted by ben, Dubai on 25 May 2009 at 02:14 UAE time
loads of tripe. a lot of the bankers are govt puppets with no mind of their own.
What about the following:
the electronics gurus- Chabbrias- Jumbo, Arun Nagar-Cellucom, bablani- Eros Electronics, Shahdadpuri- Nikai, Buxani-Sharp?.
The retail: Yossuf Ali- Lulu group, Ganwani- Lamcy, Pagarani-Choithram?.
Food- Iqbal- IFFCO/Tiffany, Malhotra- Al kabeer
Construction/Real Estate: Riad Kamel- Arabtec, Mohd.Ali-Gulfar, Paul Boyer- AMBB, Mahonys- BetterHomes, VK Gomber- Emaar,
Automotive-Rajaram- Al Nabooda- highest selling porsche dealership in the world.
Lots of research for the next version please. I got these names off the top of my head too!
Posted by ben, Dubai on 25 May 2009 at 02:14 UAE time
loads of tripe. a lot of the bankers are govt puppets with no mind of their own.
What about the following:
the electronics gurus- Chabbrias- Jumbo, Arun Nagar-Cellucom, bablani- Eros Electronics, Shahdadpuri- Nikai, Buxani-Sharp?.
The retail: Yossuf Ali- Lulu group, Ganwani- Lamcy, Pagarani-Choithram?.
Food- Iqbal- IFFCO/Tiffany, Malhotra- Al kabeer
Construction/Real Estate: Riad Kamel- Arabtec, Mohd.Ali-Gulfar, Paul Boyer- AMBB, Mahonys- BetterHomes, VK Gomber- Emaar,
Automotive-Rajaram- Al Nabooda- highest selling porsche dealership in the world.
Lots of research for the next version please. I got these names off the top of my head too!
Utter Rubbish, no research.
Posted by Long Term Serving Expat, AUH, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 00:24 UAE time
I can't believe such an article was released by Arabian Business. The writer, who is clearly ignorant to the true expat population and business leaders has apparently chose to write about European and American businessmen whom he/she comes across Dubai's watering holes....I have to rethink wasting my time reading AB articles...what a shame. What about those Arab, Asian, and African expats who have actually helped transform the region????
Posted by Long Term Serving Expat, AUH, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 00:24 UAE time
I can't believe such an article was released by Arabian Business. The writer, who is clearly ignorant to the true expat population and business leaders has apparently chose to write about European and American businessmen whom he/she comes across Dubai's watering holes....I have to rethink wasting my time reading AB articles...what a shame. What about those Arab, Asian, and African expats who have actually helped transform the region????
no women?
Posted by martha reeves, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 00:08 UAE time
so women aren't powerful in the gulf! is that the message you want to send?
Posted by martha reeves, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 25 May 2009 at 00:08 UAE time
so women aren't powerful in the gulf! is that the message you want to send?
Highly Unfair & Prejudiced...
Posted by SAJJAD AHMED KHAN, Doha, Qatar on 24 May 2009 at 22:38 UAE time
I would make the above statement owing to the fact that one of the most prominent expatriate personality and influential person from the Qatari region did not surface into your list....Mr. Ganesh Srinivasan....as per your methodology Power is what influence they exert...this is really in the broad sense...however if at all you would genuinely mean Influence in terms of what positive impact it develops in the business community or social/charitable contribution or community development then definitely Mr. Ganesh would figure top in all these parameters...i would be really surprised if Dear Editor Bhoryul is really kind enough to make my candid comment see the light of day....Cheers....Sajjad
Posted by SAJJAD AHMED KHAN, Doha, Qatar on 24 May 2009 at 22:38 UAE time
I would make the above statement owing to the fact that one of the most prominent expatriate personality and influential person from the Qatari region did not surface into your list....Mr. Ganesh Srinivasan....as per your methodology Power is what influence they exert...this is really in the broad sense...however if at all you would genuinely mean Influence in terms of what positive impact it develops in the business community or social/charitable contribution or community development then definitely Mr. Ganesh would figure top in all these parameters...i would be really surprised if Dear Editor Bhoryul is really kind enough to make my candid comment see the light of day....Cheers....Sajjad
Indians are the UAE's top market
Posted by Sally, Philadelphia, USA on 24 May 2009 at 22:32 UAE time
To all those arabs here complaining and whining that they are not on the list - get real. Its just a list meant to publicize arabianbusiness.com and its not something to get so touchy and emotional about. But what else can one expect from people who are used to favoritism and not gaining anything by true hard work.
As a banker let me tell you:
1) Indians are the largest owners of assets in countries like the UAE.
2) Indians are the number 1 buyers of freehold property in the UAE (not british, not arabs) - whether you are talking about towers, building plots, luxury villas on the Palm (yes its indian not british as Nakheel would have you beleive) or even middle income apartments.
3) Indians are the largest customers of first class on Emirates.
Need I go on???
Posted by Sally, Philadelphia, USA on 24 May 2009 at 22:32 UAE time
To all those arabs here complaining and whining that they are not on the list - get real. Its just a list meant to publicize arabianbusiness.com and its not something to get so touchy and emotional about. But what else can one expect from people who are used to favoritism and not gaining anything by true hard work.
As a banker let me tell you:
1) Indians are the largest owners of assets in countries like the UAE.
2) Indians are the number 1 buyers of freehold property in the UAE (not british, not arabs) - whether you are talking about towers, building plots, luxury villas on the Palm (yes its indian not british as Nakheel would have you beleive) or even middle income apartments.
3) Indians are the largest customers of first class on Emirates.
Need I go on???
Micky Jagtiani is GCC’s top Indian expat
Posted by karpakarajan.v.chettiar, abu dhabi, uae on 24 May 2009 at 21:52 UAE time
I HAVE TO UPDATE MYSELF. I HAVE KNOW ONLY TWO RENOWNED EXPATS; THEY ARE MR. M. A. YOUSUF ALI AND MR. B. R. SHETTY. I AM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THERE MANY MORE. GOD BLESS THEM. LET THEIR SUCCESS INSPIRE US, ALSO TOWARDS THE BETTER.
Posted by karpakarajan.v.chettiar, abu dhabi, uae on 24 May 2009 at 21:52 UAE time
I HAVE TO UPDATE MYSELF. I HAVE KNOW ONLY TWO RENOWNED EXPATS; THEY ARE MR. M. A. YOUSUF ALI AND MR. B. R. SHETTY. I AM HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THERE MANY MORE. GOD BLESS THEM. LET THEIR SUCCESS INSPIRE US, ALSO TOWARDS THE BETTER.
Race race race...
Posted by Sunny, Dubai, India on 24 May 2009 at 20:49 UAE time
I can only agree with vishal...it was mentioned that there was no prejudice, clearly the opposite! as rightly mentioned that AB recently published the top 50 wealthy expats stating that a frenchman, Jean Paul Villain from Abu dhabi is the most influential expat in the Gulf..what bias or partiality we then talking about? There are even more influential Arabs for sure, however this article was focusing on the expats, the top 50 wealthy arab list have already been published. Answering to the newspaper comment, as more than 50% of the population in the Gulf is either Indian or from the same regions, it just makes sense to have a column in the local news for this reason...
P.S: I signed my name
Posted by Sunny, Dubai, India on 24 May 2009 at 20:49 UAE time
I can only agree with vishal...it was mentioned that there was no prejudice, clearly the opposite! as rightly mentioned that AB recently published the top 50 wealthy expats stating that a frenchman, Jean Paul Villain from Abu dhabi is the most influential expat in the Gulf..what bias or partiality we then talking about? There are even more influential Arabs for sure, however this article was focusing on the expats, the top 50 wealthy arab list have already been published. Answering to the newspaper comment, as more than 50% of the population in the Gulf is either Indian or from the same regions, it just makes sense to have a column in the local news for this reason...
P.S: I signed my name
An Incomplete list
Posted by Muhammed Azeem, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 20:46 UAE time
Hello
The list should also have mentioned the first 'non-arab' speaking expats landed in this great OASIS of opportunity, and ventured into something great..I feel some names are overlooked.
Most of the readers don't read the full content of the news and just attaaaaack the ITP...WHOOOOOOPS
It's strange that how Mr.Yosuf Ali and B.R.Shetty missed this list?
Posted by Muhammed Azeem, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 20:46 UAE time
Hello
The list should also have mentioned the first 'non-arab' speaking expats landed in this great OASIS of opportunity, and ventured into something great..I feel some names are overlooked.
Most of the readers don't read the full content of the news and just attaaaaack the ITP...WHOOOOOOPS
It's strange that how Mr.Yosuf Ali and B.R.Shetty missed this list?
favouritism
Posted by mr favouritism, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 19:26 UAE time
once again we see a bias in the media towards india displayed in both khaleej times and gulf news also. my point is why the headline singling out indians ? this shows it was written by a proud indian without doubt and whilst i hold no grudges or prejeudice i feel its time other nationalities got equal respect. like the 8 pages to india in uae national newspapers and half a page to others. we are not in india. this is united ARAB emirates !
Posted by mr favouritism, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 19:26 UAE time
once again we see a bias in the media towards india displayed in both khaleej times and gulf news also. my point is why the headline singling out indians ? this shows it was written by a proud indian without doubt and whilst i hold no grudges or prejeudice i feel its time other nationalities got equal respect. like the 8 pages to india in uae national newspapers and half a page to others. we are not in india. this is united ARAB emirates !
That's a low blow Sarah.....
Posted by Vishal, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 18:49 UAE time
examples of past award winners: Satyajit Ray, also the recipient of a lifetime achievement Academy Award, Pandit Ravi Shankar, Mother Teresa....
Posted by Vishal, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 18:49 UAE time
examples of past award winners: Satyajit Ray, also the recipient of a lifetime achievement Academy Award, Pandit Ravi Shankar, Mother Teresa....
Race, race, race.....
Posted by Vishal, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 18:29 UAE time
.....what's the preoccupation with race here? Does everything boil down to nationality? What point is this publication trying to prove when saying that Europeans dominate the 'top expats' list...Go on, I dare you :-)
On another note, the number of people complaning about why so-and-so Arab wasn't on the list is hilarious, considering that AB recently issued a Top 50 list of wealthy/influential Arabs
Posted by Vishal, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 18:29 UAE time
.....what's the preoccupation with race here? Does everything boil down to nationality? What point is this publication trying to prove when saying that Europeans dominate the 'top expats' list...Go on, I dare you :-)
On another note, the number of people complaning about why so-and-so Arab wasn't on the list is hilarious, considering that AB recently issued a Top 50 list of wealthy/influential Arabs
micky jagtaani
Posted by LAKHWANI, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 18:17 UAE time
FOR MR MICKY JAGT WE WILL FEEL PROUD FOR HIS SUCCESS INTHIS REGION AND HAVING FAITH INTHIS COUNTRY I REGULAR VISIT TO HIS STORES AND SEE HOW HE HAS GIVEN EMPLOYMENT TO DIFFERENT NATIONALS IN THIS COUTRY KEEP IT UP
RGDS- JAI
Posted by LAKHWANI, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 18:17 UAE time
FOR MR MICKY JAGT WE WILL FEEL PROUD FOR HIS SUCCESS INTHIS REGION AND HAVING FAITH INTHIS COUNTRY I REGULAR VISIT TO HIS STORES AND SEE HOW HE HAS GIVEN EMPLOYMENT TO DIFFERENT NATIONALS IN THIS COUTRY KEEP IT UP
RGDS- JAI
Some bench mark
Posted by RK, Chennai, India on 24 May 2009 at 17:03 UAE time
It is good that AB has set some bench mark for common man to set ambitions.
Keep up further the good work without bias.
Posted by RK, Chennai, India on 24 May 2009 at 17:03 UAE time
It is good that AB has set some bench mark for common man to set ambitions.
Keep up further the good work without bias.
Sunny Varkey & expat power list based on monopolistic business
Posted by Joh on 24 May 2009 at 16:58 UAE time
Yawn...what power is the article talking of. The title is a joke. Nobody knows him in India. Micky Jagtiani is competing in a dynamic industry whilst Sunny holds monopoly where people have no choice but to pay. However, the current thinking will slowly see kids going back to the native where education is better sans cosmetic approach.
Posted by Joh on 24 May 2009 at 16:58 UAE time
Yawn...what power is the article talking of. The title is a joke. Nobody knows him in India. Micky Jagtiani is competing in a dynamic industry whilst Sunny holds monopoly where people have no choice but to pay. However, the current thinking will slowly see kids going back to the native where education is better sans cosmetic approach.
To Sarah
Posted by Sq8, Kuwait, Kuwait on 24 May 2009 at 16:45 UAE time
I was a bit amused by the response of Sarah from Dubai, who seems to be hurt profoundly by the remarks of TMA and Hussain to the extend that she is complaining even about the poor grammar of TMA! I don't think personal insult should be a means to justify your view.
Since you support the list so boldly, perhaps you can even explain how the MD of EMKE group, Mr. Yousuf Ali, based in Abu Dhabi, with his business empire spread over 29 countries, and employing over 20,000 staff, and having a 32% share of the retail market of GCC countries could not make it to the list. He is the only expatriate in the Board of the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce. Isn't that influence enough?
Posted by Sq8, Kuwait, Kuwait on 24 May 2009 at 16:45 UAE time
I was a bit amused by the response of Sarah from Dubai, who seems to be hurt profoundly by the remarks of TMA and Hussain to the extend that she is complaining even about the poor grammar of TMA! I don't think personal insult should be a means to justify your view.
Since you support the list so boldly, perhaps you can even explain how the MD of EMKE group, Mr. Yousuf Ali, based in Abu Dhabi, with his business empire spread over 29 countries, and employing over 20,000 staff, and having a 32% share of the retail market of GCC countries could not make it to the list. He is the only expatriate in the Board of the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce. Isn't that influence enough?
What a pile of rubbish
Posted by Mr Reason on 24 May 2009 at 16:31 UAE time
Utter rubbish, compounded by the researchers/artcle writer 'flowering' the descriptions e.g. "revered" and "one of the most sought after economists in the region, regularly appearing on television for CNBC and BBC World to give his expert analysis".
Anyone, with an ounce of sense knows that - just like the Arab List - all the truly influential names are not on it.
Posted by Mr Reason on 24 May 2009 at 16:31 UAE time
Utter rubbish, compounded by the researchers/artcle writer 'flowering' the descriptions e.g. "revered" and "one of the most sought after economists in the region, regularly appearing on television for CNBC and BBC World to give his expert analysis".
Anyone, with an ounce of sense knows that - just like the Arab List - all the truly influential names are not on it.
Expat Powerlist
Posted by desertbound, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 16:16 UAE time
As is your Editorial right, you chose not to publish my previous comment, so be it.
Yet I see you have failed to comprehend my surprise at Rank 23, resident in USA! Possibly you know something, not shared with your readers, about this Region now including USA?
Posted by desertbound, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 16:16 UAE time
As is your Editorial right, you chose not to publish my previous comment, so be it.
Yet I see you have failed to comprehend my surprise at Rank 23, resident in USA! Possibly you know something, not shared with your readers, about this Region now including USA?
INDIANS AND OTHER EXPACTS
Posted by N, AUH, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 16:13 UAE time
Do you think that it is good in GCC to have 17 UK's and 6 Indians and 6 US's and 6 Australians this sums up to 37, so there are still 13 from other nationalities, I believe Arabs should have the right to have the top 50 most enfluatial, at the end it is the land of Arabs and not anyone else, and the GCC government should look into this tsunami of indians and British...
Posted by N, AUH, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 16:13 UAE time
Do you think that it is good in GCC to have 17 UK's and 6 Indians and 6 US's and 6 Australians this sums up to 37, so there are still 13 from other nationalities, I believe Arabs should have the right to have the top 50 most enfluatial, at the end it is the land of Arabs and not anyone else, and the GCC government should look into this tsunami of indians and British...
expat power list
Posted by mn, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 16:13 UAE time
agree with most of the commentaors here, what qualifies these people to be influential, most of them have not been in their companies very long. Not only that, few of the companies mentioned have drowned in the financial crisis. What influence did they pull to save their companies? and the thousands that were fired? These the moronic Europeans that saved only their own jobs. This reads more the membership list of a particular golf club then anything else. I say lets do away wth these poster boys and bring names of people who really made a difference.
Posted by mn, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 16:13 UAE time
agree with most of the commentaors here, what qualifies these people to be influential, most of them have not been in their companies very long. Not only that, few of the companies mentioned have drowned in the financial crisis. What influence did they pull to save their companies? and the thousands that were fired? These the moronic Europeans that saved only their own jobs. This reads more the membership list of a particular golf club then anything else. I say lets do away wth these poster boys and bring names of people who really made a difference.
Confusing List!
Posted by Sq8, Kuwait, Kuwait on 24 May 2009 at 16:11 UAE time
I agree with Hussain. I am sure, had this survey been done with the population in general rather than with the readers of Arabianbusiness.com only, the picture would have been totally different, if not entirely, but at least on the Indians on the list. It beats my logics as to how Mr. Yousuf Ali M.A., CEO of EMKE group, with his business spread in almost all of the GCC countries, could not make it to the list. Specially, him being the only expatriate who could make it to the Board of Directors of the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce. His business empire is much bigger than that of Jagtiani and yet could not make into the list. The list becomes even more absurd when even Sunny Varkey, known only in the UAE has made it to the list!
Posted by Sq8, Kuwait, Kuwait on 24 May 2009 at 16:11 UAE time
I agree with Hussain. I am sure, had this survey been done with the population in general rather than with the readers of Arabianbusiness.com only, the picture would have been totally different, if not entirely, but at least on the Indians on the list. It beats my logics as to how Mr. Yousuf Ali M.A., CEO of EMKE group, with his business spread in almost all of the GCC countries, could not make it to the list. Specially, him being the only expatriate who could make it to the Board of Directors of the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce. His business empire is much bigger than that of Jagtiani and yet could not make into the list. The list becomes even more absurd when even Sunny Varkey, known only in the UAE has made it to the list!
Utter disbelief
Posted by GS, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 15:46 UAE time
I think it's good that local media takes the initiative to put these lists together. ITP have prolifically taken ownership of these lists, from hot 100s to influential 100s and so forth. The chutzpah is there but i will challenge the selection process - is it a popular vote, who decides and is it worth their opinion?
To address Sarah's comment - all agreed to, except the last sentence seems like an unnecessary jab - the padamshree has significance - from NASA to the World Bank and further, winners are contributors on the global landscape.
Posted by GS, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 15:46 UAE time
I think it's good that local media takes the initiative to put these lists together. ITP have prolifically taken ownership of these lists, from hot 100s to influential 100s and so forth. The chutzpah is there but i will challenge the selection process - is it a popular vote, who decides and is it worth their opinion?
To address Sarah's comment - all agreed to, except the last sentence seems like an unnecessary jab - the padamshree has significance - from NASA to the World Bank and further, winners are contributors on the global landscape.
Power 50
Posted by Vinod, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 15:43 UAE time
As usual, westerners top the list. This is the very example of locals being so fascinated of western people that they think only western is good! Check the global top 50.... u can find more and more Indians there rather than western people.
Posted by Vinod, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 15:43 UAE time
As usual, westerners top the list. This is the very example of locals being so fascinated of western people that they think only western is good! Check the global top 50.... u can find more and more Indians there rather than western people.
Sarah, you are the imbecile
Posted by Geriant, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 15:39 UAE time
Have you ever heard of the Phoenicians? Many Lebanese would laugh at your uppity expat ignorance as to their origins. Calling them Arabs is like calling a Scot English, at least in educated circles.
Posted by Geriant, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 15:39 UAE time
Have you ever heard of the Phoenicians? Many Lebanese would laugh at your uppity expat ignorance as to their origins. Calling them Arabs is like calling a Scot English, at least in educated circles.
Another list just for the sake of publishing a list
Posted by Osama Natto, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on 24 May 2009 at 15:33 UAE time
OK, here we go again. Another list just for the sake of publishing a list to look cool.
I agree that ITP publications in general are focused on UAE. Perform a basic statistical analysis on the number of articles, people, …etc you will find that the majority are UAE focused because the fellows are ITP are narrow-minded, sitting in the UAE and can’t comprehend to look beyond the borders. There is much more interesting news happening over here in Saudi that is worth publishing, but Saudi Arabia is not considered as a cool place.
I challenge the selection criteria big time; the fellows at ArabianBusiness did not do their homework well before reaching to the list. I am sure it was mostly desk research. The List that was published two months ago about the 100 most influence Arabs was a total shame, there are people on that list that have no influence whatsoever and I am sure they were surprised to see their names on the list.
In January this year, my company was ranked number 5 on one of those Mickey-mouse lists. Until today, I hide the award somewhere in the office and not proud to be on the list. That list has questionable scoring system and I have communicated my concerns to the list organizers and I thank them for listening and taking action for producing a better list that is based on qualitative and quantitative research. I just ask the fellows at ITP to LISTEN and adjust instead of being defensive and ignorant of the readers valid points.
I am a long time ArabianBusiness reader, but recently I started to lose interest due to credibility issue.
Posted by Osama Natto, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on 24 May 2009 at 15:33 UAE time
OK, here we go again. Another list just for the sake of publishing a list to look cool.
I agree that ITP publications in general are focused on UAE. Perform a basic statistical analysis on the number of articles, people, …etc you will find that the majority are UAE focused because the fellows are ITP are narrow-minded, sitting in the UAE and can’t comprehend to look beyond the borders. There is much more interesting news happening over here in Saudi that is worth publishing, but Saudi Arabia is not considered as a cool place.
I challenge the selection criteria big time; the fellows at ArabianBusiness did not do their homework well before reaching to the list. I am sure it was mostly desk research. The List that was published two months ago about the 100 most influence Arabs was a total shame, there are people on that list that have no influence whatsoever and I am sure they were surprised to see their names on the list.
In January this year, my company was ranked number 5 on one of those Mickey-mouse lists. Until today, I hide the award somewhere in the office and not proud to be on the list. That list has questionable scoring system and I have communicated my concerns to the list organizers and I thank them for listening and taking action for producing a better list that is based on qualitative and quantitative research. I just ask the fellows at ITP to LISTEN and adjust instead of being defensive and ignorant of the readers valid points.
I am a long time ArabianBusiness reader, but recently I started to lose interest due to credibility issue.
Reader confusion
Posted by Sarah, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 14:58 UAE time
I am staggered -and a little embarrassed - for the majority of the commentators here. To quote TMA - who is clearly an imbecile - let's tackle the obvious. The article states quite clearly that if you are an Arab, you will not be included in this list as you would qualify instead for the Power 100 list. Have any of you read the intro? (As an aside, TMA, why are there quote marks around the word 'expatriaty'? Who are you quoting? Clearly your grammar is as poor as your reading skills.) Hussain, who is "glamorous" on this list?! And who specifically advertises with Arabian Business that you can quote? Rather than make unfounded allegations, name the firms. It would add some weight to your claims. And the Padmashree award might be prestigious in India, but not so much elsewhere. Rather like you, its unimportant.
Posted by Sarah, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 14:58 UAE time
I am staggered -and a little embarrassed - for the majority of the commentators here. To quote TMA - who is clearly an imbecile - let's tackle the obvious. The article states quite clearly that if you are an Arab, you will not be included in this list as you would qualify instead for the Power 100 list. Have any of you read the intro? (As an aside, TMA, why are there quote marks around the word 'expatriaty'? Who are you quoting? Clearly your grammar is as poor as your reading skills.) Hussain, who is "glamorous" on this list?! And who specifically advertises with Arabian Business that you can quote? Rather than make unfounded allegations, name the firms. It would add some weight to your claims. And the Padmashree award might be prestigious in India, but not so much elsewhere. Rather like you, its unimportant.
Known Expat 50
Posted by Mujtaba, Jeddah, KSA on 24 May 2009 at 14:32 UAE time
It would be better that the list to be called known 50 Influential expats instead the top 50. Because it is difficult to obtain complete data throughout of gulf of each individual, so many readers not finding their favourites must know the fact that it is based on what individual data is shared with reporters and what is available to public at large.
Posted by Mujtaba, Jeddah, KSA on 24 May 2009 at 14:32 UAE time
It would be better that the list to be called known 50 Influential expats instead the top 50. Because it is difficult to obtain complete data throughout of gulf of each individual, so many readers not finding their favourites must know the fact that it is based on what individual data is shared with reporters and what is available to public at large.
NO BEGINING IS FLAWLESS
Posted by mustafa, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 13:08 UAE time
IT IS GOOD EFFORT FROM AB TO PUBLISH THIS KIND OF LIST,WHICH WOULD ENCOUREGE OTHER PROMINENT PEOPLES TO DO SOMETHING GOOD TO MAKE DIFFERENCE TO SOCIETY IN WHICH WE LIVE,AS USUAL THIS LIST MIGHT HAVE ITS PRO & CON BUT MUST BE APPRECITED TO START THIS KIND OF TREND IN THIS REGION
KEEP IT UP
Posted by mustafa, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 13:08 UAE time
IT IS GOOD EFFORT FROM AB TO PUBLISH THIS KIND OF LIST,WHICH WOULD ENCOUREGE OTHER PROMINENT PEOPLES TO DO SOMETHING GOOD TO MAKE DIFFERENCE TO SOCIETY IN WHICH WE LIVE,AS USUAL THIS LIST MIGHT HAVE ITS PRO & CON BUT MUST BE APPRECITED TO START THIS KIND OF TREND IN THIS REGION
KEEP IT UP
Change the name
Posted by JV, Doha, Qatar on 24 May 2009 at 13:01 UAE time
Reading all of the comments, I think that they should change the name to the GCC's list of 50 Most Influential Expatriate Gentlemen, which would bring a little more clarity to the selections and exclusions.
Posted by JV, Doha, Qatar on 24 May 2009 at 13:01 UAE time
Reading all of the comments, I think that they should change the name to the GCC's list of 50 Most Influential Expatriate Gentlemen, which would bring a little more clarity to the selections and exclusions.
Researchers - 2 out of 14
Posted by BNK, sharjah on 24 May 2009 at 12:28 UAE time
2 Indian researchers out of 14, which is simply 14%.
Hoe many more Indians you expect to be added in the list, Thank the researchers, they allowed Anil and Neeraj to add atleast 6, 6 out of 50, if you another indian, if he doesn't mind, with UK passport also as indian, it becomes 7 out of 50, there we go, 14%.
Be happpy guys, they made it (Anil and Neeraj). Hats off to you.
BR Shetty and Yousuf Ali are not included for the very reason, to have have them first of all Anil and Neeraj should use there influence to increase the strenght by one more so that they can have another 2 indian names in the list.
Isn't it.
Posted by BNK, sharjah on 24 May 2009 at 12:28 UAE time
2 Indian researchers out of 14, which is simply 14%.
Hoe many more Indians you expect to be added in the list, Thank the researchers, they allowed Anil and Neeraj to add atleast 6, 6 out of 50, if you another indian, if he doesn't mind, with UK passport also as indian, it becomes 7 out of 50, there we go, 14%.
Be happpy guys, they made it (Anil and Neeraj). Hats off to you.
BR Shetty and Yousuf Ali are not included for the very reason, to have have them first of all Anil and Neeraj should use there influence to increase the strenght by one more so that they can have another 2 indian names in the list.
Isn't it.
The Expat 50
Posted by hombil, Muscat, Oman on 24 May 2009 at 12:23 UAE time
It's good to see atleast one expat from Oman on the list. However, Oman has quite a few expats, who would qualify to be on this list. So, one would like to know, what was the criterea for an expat to be on this list?
66% of the list has expats from UAE! Looks like arabianbusiness.com could not see much beyond the UAE borders to find some more worthy expats from other countries in the region! Oman is a classic example.
Posted by hombil, Muscat, Oman on 24 May 2009 at 12:23 UAE time
It's good to see atleast one expat from Oman on the list. However, Oman has quite a few expats, who would qualify to be on this list. So, one would like to know, what was the criterea for an expat to be on this list?
66% of the list has expats from UAE! Looks like arabianbusiness.com could not see much beyond the UAE borders to find some more worthy expats from other countries in the region! Oman is a classic example.
FROM THE EDITOR - FOR TMA
Posted by Anil Bhoyrul on 24 May 2009 at 12:08 UAE time
Dear Sir,
You talk about a "talent drain" in putting together this list. That has obviously affected you as well. May I suggest you read the list first. If you did so, you would understand that individuals like Jo Ghossoub are not on this list because they qualify for the Arab Power List.
Posted by Anil Bhoyrul on 24 May 2009 at 12:08 UAE time
Dear Sir,
You talk about a "talent drain" in putting together this list. That has obviously affected you as well. May I suggest you read the list first. If you did so, you would understand that individuals like Jo Ghossoub are not on this list because they qualify for the Arab Power List.
What is this?
Posted by john, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 11:25 UAE time
What type of influence is this? What are the criteria behind selecting a bunch of western men? It seems to be pathetic!
Posted by john, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 11:25 UAE time
What type of influence is this? What are the criteria behind selecting a bunch of western men? It seems to be pathetic!
Pathetic Effort
Posted by TMA, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 10:38 UAE time
I know there's likely going to be a talent drain in Dubai due to the economic crisis but I hadn't realized it had hit arabianbusiness.com so quickly. I'm not sure who put this list together or what the criteria are, but it would be good in the future if you could assign this sort of project to someone with a degree or some sort of experience in journalism.
First off, lets tackle the obvious. Expatriates by definition are people who are not nationals of the country in which they live. Accordingly, I assume that non-Gulf Arabs would also count as expatriates. If so then I'm interested to know why Joseph Ghossoub and Osman Sultan aren't mentioned. Perhaps they're not "expatriaty" enough? Not British/European or Indian enough?
I would also be fascinated to understand how the CEO of Etihad outranks the CEO of Emirates Airlines by a full 6 places... not sure if the author of this masterpiece has noticed but in the world of airlines, Emirates and Etihad are incomparable in terms of routes, revenues, heritage, etc. There's a whole lot more of these examples but I honestly can't be bothered to invest more time analyzing this nonsense.
Lastly and as further evidence of the author's incompetence is his/her lack of insight into the largest organizations in GCC that have the owner as Chairman/CEO and an army of experienced Expatriates running the show on a day-to-day basis. It would be enlightening - though beyond the author's abilities, I'm sure - to take a look at these large conglomerates and understand the influence level of the say deputy CEO, Vice-President, etc.
In sum, a complete waste of time, effort and hype; if you don't want this relegated to the rubbish bin of journalism, I suggest you revisit the way this thing has been put together and do a better-than-poor job next year.
Posted by TMA, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 10:38 UAE time
I know there's likely going to be a talent drain in Dubai due to the economic crisis but I hadn't realized it had hit arabianbusiness.com so quickly. I'm not sure who put this list together or what the criteria are, but it would be good in the future if you could assign this sort of project to someone with a degree or some sort of experience in journalism.
First off, lets tackle the obvious. Expatriates by definition are people who are not nationals of the country in which they live. Accordingly, I assume that non-Gulf Arabs would also count as expatriates. If so then I'm interested to know why Joseph Ghossoub and Osman Sultan aren't mentioned. Perhaps they're not "expatriaty" enough? Not British/European or Indian enough?
I would also be fascinated to understand how the CEO of Etihad outranks the CEO of Emirates Airlines by a full 6 places... not sure if the author of this masterpiece has noticed but in the world of airlines, Emirates and Etihad are incomparable in terms of routes, revenues, heritage, etc. There's a whole lot more of these examples but I honestly can't be bothered to invest more time analyzing this nonsense.
Lastly and as further evidence of the author's incompetence is his/her lack of insight into the largest organizations in GCC that have the owner as Chairman/CEO and an army of experienced Expatriates running the show on a day-to-day basis. It would be enlightening - though beyond the author's abilities, I'm sure - to take a look at these large conglomerates and understand the influence level of the say deputy CEO, Vice-President, etc.
In sum, a complete waste of time, effort and hype; if you don't want this relegated to the rubbish bin of journalism, I suggest you revisit the way this thing has been put together and do a better-than-poor job next year.
Poor and biased report!
Posted by Hussain, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 24 May 2009 at 10:23 UAE time
The report is clearly compiled to include a list of glitzy and glamarous circle of social buddies who consistently advertise with ITP's (Arabian Business's parent company) magazine's and websites. It is surprising how two Indians Mr. B.R. Shetty of the NMC Group and Mr. Yusuf Ali of the EMKE group are not on that list since they were both awarded the prestigious Padmashree award by the Indian Goverment earliest this year.
The publishers need to re-think their strategy in next year's report and focus more on those who have true power. I would like to see some major industrialists on that list, who may never attend any social events or hog media limelight. This sort of report will only affect the credibility of future Arabian Business reports.
Posted by Hussain, Dubai, United Arab Emirates on 24 May 2009 at 10:23 UAE time
The report is clearly compiled to include a list of glitzy and glamarous circle of social buddies who consistently advertise with ITP's (Arabian Business's parent company) magazine's and websites. It is surprising how two Indians Mr. B.R. Shetty of the NMC Group and Mr. Yusuf Ali of the EMKE group are not on that list since they were both awarded the prestigious Padmashree award by the Indian Goverment earliest this year.
The publishers need to re-think their strategy in next year's report and focus more on those who have true power. I would like to see some major industrialists on that list, who may never attend any social events or hog media limelight. This sort of report will only affect the credibility of future Arabian Business reports.
FROM THE EDITOR
Posted by Anil Bhoyrul on 24 May 2009 at 10:18 UAE time
The list is confined to Expatriates in the GCC, which is why there are no Lebanese, Egyptians, Jordanians..etc. Also it is explained in the article that we have NOT included any Arabs because they feature in our Arab Power List which was published two months ago.
Posted by Anil Bhoyrul on 24 May 2009 at 10:18 UAE time
The list is confined to Expatriates in the GCC, which is why there are no Lebanese, Egyptians, Jordanians..etc. Also it is explained in the article that we have NOT included any Arabs because they feature in our Arab Power List which was published two months ago.
Real Estate Visas - A Sham!
Posted by Abraham, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 10:10 UAE time
I'm surprised that none of the newspapers have voiced any negative sentiment over the visa rules. Directly implied by the rules - a typical family of 4 will be spending for the visa and the cost of the ticket to go outside the country, which, assuming these to be about Dh. 1000 per person at the very least, adds up to an expense of Dh. 24,000 per family per year! I don't know about other people, but for me it's not just the cost I find to be unjustifiable, but even more of an inconvenience (putting it mildly!) is the requirement to leave the country every six months.
No wonder the real estate market has collapsed!
Posted by Abraham, Abu Dhabi, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 10:10 UAE time
I'm surprised that none of the newspapers have voiced any negative sentiment over the visa rules. Directly implied by the rules - a typical family of 4 will be spending for the visa and the cost of the ticket to go outside the country, which, assuming these to be about Dh. 1000 per person at the very least, adds up to an expense of Dh. 24,000 per family per year! I don't know about other people, but for me it's not just the cost I find to be unjustifiable, but even more of an inconvenience (putting it mildly!) is the requirement to leave the country every six months.
No wonder the real estate market has collapsed!
No Arab expats in Power list
Posted by Tariq, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on 24 May 2009 at 09:47 UAE time
Hi Patrick,
I think as the title of this article says it is about GCC and not Middle East that is why there are no Lebanese, Egyptians or Jordanians.
Posted by Tariq, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on 24 May 2009 at 09:47 UAE time
Hi Patrick,
I think as the title of this article says it is about GCC and not Middle East that is why there are no Lebanese, Egyptians or Jordanians.
List notable by missing names, not same old, same old
Posted by Geriant, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 09:28 UAE time
And the women (Asteco's chairman), and the folks who power DIFC, and Joe Gossoub, and the former head of GFH, and so on and so on? Did you tired hacks just sit back with your wilting filofaxes and pick straws? That a PR apologist made the cut shows who butters and pays for your bread. Thankfully I am not on this list, otherwise I would have to dump the car at the airport, flee the Nakheel minders on The Palm for my unpaid services and hide from Amlak's mutawa for the unpaid mortgage.
Posted by Geriant, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 09:28 UAE time
And the women (Asteco's chairman), and the folks who power DIFC, and Joe Gossoub, and the former head of GFH, and so on and so on? Did you tired hacks just sit back with your wilting filofaxes and pick straws? That a PR apologist made the cut shows who butters and pays for your bread. Thankfully I am not on this list, otherwise I would have to dump the car at the airport, flee the Nakheel minders on The Palm for my unpaid services and hide from Amlak's mutawa for the unpaid mortgage.
Incomplete list
Posted by Mark, London, UK on 24 May 2009 at 09:23 UAE time
How can you call this a complete expat list without any Arabs on it? Doesn't make sense, even though many of the CEOs of the largest companies are Arabs holding western passports.
Posted by Mark, London, UK on 24 May 2009 at 09:23 UAE time
How can you call this a complete expat list without any Arabs on it? Doesn't make sense, even though many of the CEOs of the largest companies are Arabs holding western passports.
Errr ... Jordanians/Egyptians/Lebanese ...... Arabs!
Posted by Wake-up on 24 May 2009 at 09:12 UAE time
Ummmm Patrick ... newsflash .... the nationalities you mention are Arabs .. and as the report very CLEARLY states so. Perhaps it is not the report that is so strange - perhaps you are just having one of those strange starts to the week!
Posted by Wake-up on 24 May 2009 at 09:12 UAE time
Ummmm Patrick ... newsflash .... the nationalities you mention are Arabs .. and as the report very CLEARLY states so. Perhaps it is not the report that is so strange - perhaps you are just having one of those strange starts to the week!
Arabic speakers
Posted by mn, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 08:56 UAE time
I am local, arabic speaking, master degree holder, with ten years experience in my field. I have just been fired because my company can only keep only one person at that level. they chose a german who could barely speak English, let alone Arabic, been the country a year and know nothing about the region. Arabic skills do double your chance... of getting replaced my a European who has none. I say all this Euro trash we are inherting because they can't find jobs in their country should be limited, and only the qualified should be allowed to enter the country. and arabic language shuld be made mandatory.
Posted by mn, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 08:56 UAE time
I am local, arabic speaking, master degree holder, with ten years experience in my field. I have just been fired because my company can only keep only one person at that level. they chose a german who could barely speak English, let alone Arabic, been the country a year and know nothing about the region. Arabic skills do double your chance... of getting replaced my a European who has none. I say all this Euro trash we are inherting because they can't find jobs in their country should be limited, and only the qualified should be allowed to enter the country. and arabic language shuld be made mandatory.
The french!!!! thats a laugh
Posted by mn, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 08:49 UAE time
Its shocking to see that a french have made to top. As much respect i have for the American & British way of conducting business. I have never met a nation more inefficient, crooked and moronic then the french. It makes me wonder how they be a developed country at all. Maybe they are also riding on back on Germany ust like so many nations. A very surprising list indeed.
Posted by mn, dubai, uae on 24 May 2009 at 08:49 UAE time
Its shocking to see that a french have made to top. As much respect i have for the American & British way of conducting business. I have never met a nation more inefficient, crooked and moronic then the french. It makes me wonder how they be a developed country at all. Maybe they are also riding on back on Germany ust like so many nations. A very surprising list indeed.
Strange, very strange
Posted by Sand Jockey, Dubai on 24 May 2009 at 08:07 UAE time
This list is not, from my viewpoint, that of the most influential Expats, but rather the Expats who have the biggest ad budgets, the Expats who get their name in the press because of their position at the biggest companies.
These aren't the most influential Expats, not by a long shot. These are the Expats who make the most money and, other than their spending, have the LEAST influence on our society.
I'd respect the list a lot more if it was about people trying to make a difference, folks trying to bring green energy to the region, folks trying to bring human rights, folks trying to educate the children and adults alike (and Sunny Varkey ain't one of them!).
I wonder how many of these folks are ad buyers in the AB family?
Give me a break!
SJ
Posted by Sand Jockey, Dubai on 24 May 2009 at 08:07 UAE time
This list is not, from my viewpoint, that of the most influential Expats, but rather the Expats who have the biggest ad budgets, the Expats who get their name in the press because of their position at the biggest companies.
These aren't the most influential Expats, not by a long shot. These are the Expats who make the most money and, other than their spending, have the LEAST influence on our society.
I'd respect the list a lot more if it was about people trying to make a difference, folks trying to bring green energy to the region, folks trying to bring human rights, folks trying to educate the children and adults alike (and Sunny Varkey ain't one of them!).
I wonder how many of these folks are ad buyers in the AB family?
Give me a break!
SJ
Thought I would point out the obvious...
Posted by Sand Jockey, Dubai on 24 May 2009 at 08:01 UAE time
...but Adm William Gortney is NOT in the transportation business. As Commander of the NavCent and 5th Fleet, he is most definitely in the MILITARY business.
SJ
Posted by Sand Jockey, Dubai on 24 May 2009 at 08:01 UAE time
...but Adm William Gortney is NOT in the transportation business. As Commander of the NavCent and 5th Fleet, he is most definitely in the MILITARY business.
SJ
No Arab Expats in the power list
Posted by Patrick, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 00:13 UAE time
I wonder how come we don't see any Egyptian or Lebanese or Jordanians.. We have seen many influential Lebanese in the Media.. That is a very strange report..
Posted by Patrick, Dubai, UAE on 24 May 2009 at 00:13 UAE time
I wonder how come we don't see any Egyptian or Lebanese or Jordanians.. We have seen many influential Lebanese in the Media.. That is a very strange report..
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