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Etisalat to unveil prepaid plans for iPhone - UAE
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Posted on Monday, 2 March 2009
Dear SS
Posted by Dan at 17:40 UAE time
You made one good point, INFLATION, and Etisalat is helping it reach new heights. And a MONOPOLY that allows exorbitant rates is not the same as standing as a winner of war and dictating the conditions.
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etisalat and the iphone
Posted by Maz at 16:21 UAE time
If you compare Etisalat prices for phones and internet to almost anywhere in the world you will see that they are far more expensive.
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Exchange rates
Posted by Doug at 10:16 UAE time
SS, both the riyal and the dirham are pegged to the dollar. That means nothing is essentially lost in the exchange rate. Fine, 1 SAR isn't 1 AED. But it does mean that 3000 AED will always be 3059 SAR. Inflation is also rife in both the KSA and UAE - neither of which explains why the Saudi iPhone is dramatically cheaper than the UAE iPhone. There isn't a difference in operating cost and in all honesty you would expect the iPhone to be cheaper in Etisalat's home market given that they control all the infrastructure and could easily offset any operational costs.
With respect to the 'rules' of unfair competition, the point I was making was that the TRA sets regulations which PREVENT unfair competition. These rules include pricing tariffs so that one tariff from one telco isn't substantially cheaper than a comparable one from another telco (which is ridiculous since it hurts consumers). The rules also state that no phone can be exclusively offered by one telco and not the other. Evidently the rules have been bent because the iPhone is not available on a Du tariff.
A far fairer system would be to allow both telcos in the UAE to service the iPhone and for both telcos to independently set their tariffs. This would mean prices would come down for consumers, and more people would buy the product, generating more money for the telco.
This is all basic Economics 101, but then again, what do you expect from a country that honestly believes people will pay more for rent here than they would in somewhere like London or New York.
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Posted on Sunday, 1 March 2009
The iPhone Drama
Posted by SS at 22:40 UAE time
Allright, so the iPhone is here. And I am almost considering it a moral obligation to express my opinion to the lovers of this fantastic work of art and technology (it may seem I am about to start drooling about the iPhone, haha...no, Im not). First thing. What's all the fuss about? iPhone this iPhone that. If someone wants to watch YouTube, seriously guys sit at home and do it. You dont really need to be driving with one hand, coffee in the other, traffic overflowing to the point of no return, and somehow magically you manage to put your iPhone on your forehead to watch YouTube. Seriously.
Second, I have a question for you Mr. Doug. Have you ever exchanged currency from Saudi Riyals to the UAE Dirham? If you answer yes, then I would not believe you because my friend, the exchange rate is NOT the same. 1 Saudi Riyal = 0.97 +/- UAE Dirham. When you reach a transaction of billions, millions even thousands frankly, it DOES make a difference.
Third, the operational costs DO differ. How? Easy. Inflation. I will not bore you with the economics and finance behind it. As I said, Inflation. Period.
And Etisalat is not breaking rules of 'unfair' competition. You dont HAVE rules in unfair competition.
In the words of a smart man...
After a war, the winner decides what were war crimes.
Thank you for listening everybody.
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Etisalat and iPhone not a good deal
Posted by Michael Daniel at 21:25 UAE time
I've been waiting for the day when etisalat would bring the iPhone to the UAE, but upon examining the plans its quite clear that the consumer is the loser in this arrangement. Lets review shall we.
first the one time payment of the iPhone the most expensive being 3090 is not a problem really if it weren't for the 199 per month that according to the etisalat people includes a rental charge for the phone so for 12 months during your contract you are paying an undisclosed amount towards the phone that you have already paid for cuz if you review prices of the phone direct from apple in HK, France or Italy when you buy an unlocked phone for use with any provider it works out to about 3000 AED so my question is why am i paying more especially when that price is tagged to a data and voice package that is laughable!
The blackberry is 300 a month for unlimited data why not have the same plan.
Also another annoying factor with iPhone is that I have to get a new number when i'm very happy with the number I have and when i ask why the need for a new number the response is usually very vague and uninformed. Is the new chip better equipped to work with the iphone and etisalat's systems.
Also etisalat state that the added benefit of buying from them is that you'll get the service that comes with it, whereas if you have an unlocked or hacked phone you won't. My question is, are there certified apple professionals who will service my iPhone? I'm very skeptical of it.
For etisalat to make it worth my while make the price a 1000 AED and let me choose my plan from a selection of plans that suit my needs.
I mean My cell provider in canada offers a $75 plan 225 AED a month and you would get 500 minutes talk time weekdays then unlimited talk time during weekends unlimited text messages 1GB data transmission with visual voicemail.
This is just a simple lets squeeze as much money as we can from our unsuspecting concumers.
Not cool!
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etisalat and iphone
Posted by Raj at 18:38 UAE time
Sorry guys, you fellas are way to ExpensivE
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Nonsense
Posted by Doug at 16:21 UAE time
"it is difficult to compare iPhone prices in these two countries"
No it's not. Riyals convert directly to dirhams, for a start. Let's face facts here. Etisalat are charging more in the UAE because, despite there being no real operational cost difference between deploying the iPhone in the UAE and KSA, punters in the UAE are likely to be prepared to pay more. So Etisalat will charge them more. It's greed, pure and simple.
Etisalat also cannot blame the TRA and its 'unfair competition' pricing regulations - since the iPhone cannot be used on the Du network, which means Etisalat is already breaking the regulations with regards to unfair competition.
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