Ron Dennis brands $2m Bugatti Veyron ‘piece of junk’

Posted by: Jamie Monday, 31 January 2011 11:04 AM[UAE] - UK

How can Dennis possibly say that the Veyron is a piece of junk? Furthermore, the comment stating that in Abu Dhabi the F1 kept beating the Veyron off the line so it had to be fixed is complete nonsense, the millions upon millions of views who watched the specific episode of Top Gear all saw that the F1 beat the Veyron off the line as it is much lighter, but as the Veyron has more power it caught up and over-took as it is the superior car. It is an absolute engineering marvel! It is like the Concord of the road! (And don't anyone dare try and tarnish my opinions of Concorde as my Grandad helped build it so I think he knows what he is on about when he tells me about it.) Dennis is just jealous that McLaren isn't what it used to be and that the Bugatti Veyron is the ultimate luxurious and fast car ever, and will continue to be in the conceivable future.

Posted by: Zero Saturday, 26 June 2010 11:45 PM[UAE]

"ESP and DSG are not Veyron technology - check Wikipedia. " Majoriy of posters already know. There is nothing to use proven technologies to create something new. DSG for Veyron is built by Ricardo, known for making Formula One transmission, to handle that massive torque for 10-20 years. ESP was the most advanced at its time give the fact driver can take off hands from wheels like driving . "If you gave the McLaren F1 the same power as the Veyron it would reach 280mph! Give the Veyron the same power as the F1 and you get a car that barely reaches 210mph! The F1 is a well rounded supercar while the Veyron only has a higher speed (10mph more) and higher weight to boast about." Not that simple. McLaren F1 would have to be completely redone because its technologies is out of date in today standard. Heck, even F360 beat it on track. Consider the traction meaning F1 is difficult to launch from start. The chassis is not made for 280 mph let alone 250mph. Veyron has twice the torque of McLaren F1 negating latter power/weight ratio advantage. F1 handling is not that great because of twitching issue compared to its rival at the time F50, EB110, Porsche GT1 and Jaguar XJ220. it is amazing how some people are fooled thinking Veyron is only made for speed while overlooking its handling and cornering with its luxury.

Posted by: s Thursday, 6 May 2010 5:58 PM[UAE]

ESP and DSG are not Veyron technology - check Wikipedia. If you gave the McLaren F1 the same power as the Veyron it would reach 280mph! Give the Veyron the same power as the F1 and you get a car that barely reaches 210mph! The F1 is a well rounded supercar while the Veyron only has a higher speed (10mph more) and higher weight to boast about.

Posted by: Zero Wednesday, 14 April 2010 11:45 PM[UAE]

Poor Dennis, When it comes to aesthetic, it is a matter of preference. For my view, McLaren F1 looks a modified prototype race car, design is obviously taken from the old Can-Am developed by Ultima. Even though Veyron may not win a beauty contest, he is one of few cars that does not look like another supercar thanks to Ferdinand Pierch insistence to not radically change its look. Ron, you forgot the 243 mph done in 1998 was without rev limited and a slight modification of gearbox while Veyron can easily beat it stock. Gordon Murray understand Bugatti was not aiming to compete with F1 from day one. Big difference is the stability, comfort and the ease of driving. McLaren F1 was not that great due to its twitching handling. In reference of Top Gear, don't you realize the crew set up the launch to favour F1 while holding back Veyron? If Veyron was junk, then why car industry got inspired with the us of some Veyron technology like DSG, ESP. To reply another poster: "The Veyron fails in most respects that define a "sports" car & it is ugly. I can't believe how poorly it performs off the mark with all that power. The only thing that it achieved & will be remembered for is it's so called 1000 hp motor - the first in a production car - even if the programme was held up for a couple of yrs because they couldn't cool the engine & eventually ended up with 10 radiators!!!!!" That is ignoring the initial goal: 400 km/h, 1000 hp, no drastic change from the prototype.. If Veyron has poor performance, explain the 0-100 km/h in 2.5 sec, 0-100-0 mph in 9.9 sec, 400-0 km/h in 10 seconds, an emergency brake with ABS, the fact it bested Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Carrera on Top Gear track despite its nearly 2 metric tons, the fact majority of tested are impressed by its handling given the fact you can let off wheel while accelerating/braking. Veyron goal is not to be a track car but an ultimate road car which is successfully achieved.

Posted by: cosicave Tuesday, 13 April 2010 8:35 PM[UAE]

Whilst an image of Ron pottering about in the traditional, English, 'garden shed' may not be an accurate analogy for his big money venture, it is wonderful to find that some Englishmen not only have the ability we've always known we've had, but also the the desire and ambition to demonstrate it again. However, it is interesting that, yet again, it is the might of German engineering which is being challenged; and once again by a relatively small English budget. The Spitfire is possibly the greatest machine ever made. And it was built not just from saucepans and cutlery, but a vision. - A vision held and dreamed up by a man credited with considerable responsibility for winning the Battle of Britain: Reginald Mitchell. In today's terms, Ron Dennis is our Reg'; our visionary. Good luck to the old war-horse and if he needs my saucepans, he's welcome... Chocks away and Tally-ho!