UAE slams "dangerous" Iran islands visit

Feras Maktabi

We all feel apprehensive about the problems in the Middle East & the Arabian Gulf but to bury ones head in the sand and behave as though we live in an ideal region devoid of serious problems is detrimental to all and it is only normal for the world to be suspicious and uneasy when dealing with people from countries under sanctions, nothing personal per se but this is how it is.
People of all walks of life and from all origins climb the ladder of success in the USA and are members of the Congress which consists of two Houses, the House of Representatives & the Senate. Iran has not been classified as a rogue country for no reasons. We all wish the best for every nation on this planet esp. Palestine Syria & Iran but it is high time Iran addresses a long list of concerns before welcoming the pariah nation back into the fold.

Mike Jones

@ Feras, unfortunately there has always been a game of politics where global natural resources have been involved. The term Divide et impera was coined by Rome, it means divide and conquer. The terms has never been truer than today, especially in the Moslem world. The regime in Iran is a nasty one but is it any better or worse than others? Having said this , do you really feel that what ever regime was in power, would give up sovereignty over the islands? As for Persian V Arabian, it has nothing to do with any government, it is the UN Agency that deals with names. As for a rouge State, not so long ago Saudi Arabia was one , just for stopping oil Shipments to USA! Rogue States come and go, regimes come and go, geo politics change depending on .....

one of the joes

@Salem, you seem to know so much about me. Still, the arguments I have raised, remain unanswered.
May be you can enlighten me about myself, what are my selfish ulterior motives?
Btw, I am not Iranian - and my glasses are not rose-tinted, they are just not dirty from intentional misconceptions.

Salem

@Joe, you claim you are not an Iranian but you sure seem overly obsessed with Iran. You remind me of an ancient Arabian proverb, 'in the eyes of its mother, the ape resembles a beautiful deer.' You need to educate yourself on the geo politics of the Arabian Gulf which is a political and economic powerhouse or the regional power rivalry or the increasing level of sectarian tension or the regional cold war between Iran and all its neighbors, etc. May be you conveniently see Iran through your own rose-tinted glasses for your own selfish ulterior motives that are evident for all to perceive. Now it is clear where your loyalties dwell.....

one of the joes

@Fajir, sadly you did not give us any rationale for your fear of Iranian people.
But you may like to share your reasons with for example the US. Today's estimates are that about 1.5 mio Iranians live in the US. One of them even made it to Vice Major of Beverly Hills.
Imagine how naive the US have to be ... or could it be that they look at people in a slightly more differentiated way than you do?
May be you just paint the world in black and white?

Fajr

Sorry joe but not in this case, we cannot afford to differentiate between Iran and its people, we are not that naive.

WHJ

Again, you call it the Persian gulf and we will call it the Arabian Gulf. The Brits call the body of water between the UK and France the English Channel and the French call it La Manche. Argentenean maps show the Falklands as Malvinas (by the way these islands belong to Argentina).
But for those who argue that Persia existed before the Arab countries and therefore the name the Persian gulf should apply, well, Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) existed before Persia and the civilizations that flourished there were significant, so perhaps we should call it the Mesopotamian gulf. Or perhaps the Red Sea should be called the Sea of Pharaohs. Why not? Isn't your argument based on past glories and ancient civilizations?

hani

@WHJ I don't think in France they change ancient maps where it is called the English Channel to another name (ever been to the Dubai Museum?) or that they ban people from calling it the English Channel.

Mike

@WHJ: People who say it should be called the A. Gulf say it should be called so because there are more Arabs living along its coast (which anyways is incorrect).

You can call it anything you like, and I will call whatever I want anything I like.

WHJ

@ Hani. Thanks for your input but I'm well aware that La Manche doesn't mean the French Channel. You missed the point. There are countries that give different names to the same territory (the French could've called it Le Chenal Anglais but they chose to call it La Manche).
@mike. Did you even read my comment? Where did I say that it should be called the Arabian Gulf just because there are more Arabs along its coast? I said you go ahead and call it the Persian Gulf and we will call it the Arabian Gulf, and I gave examples of how countries around the world give different names to the same territory. Perhaps you should read my comment again.

Hani

La Manche doesn't literally mean the French Chanel. It is the name of it French. In English newspapers that are French owned and sold in France it is called the English Chanel.

mike

Nobody said that it should be called the Persian Gulf because the Persian empire is ancient. You are the one who insists that it should be called the A. Gulf because there are more Arabs living along its coastline.

If we are to go buy your logic, we should definitely not call it the United Arab Emirates, since there are more people from the Indian subcontinent than Arabs living here!

It is the Persian Gulf for millenniums and you cannot just change it because of some Arabs feel like it is the right name to call it. Besides you have the Arabian Sea which is much bigger. Aren't you content with that?

And lets not forget that it was a Britisher who called it the A. Gulf in the 50s when Persia tried to nationalize it's oil. At least come up with your original idea PLEASE

Sultan

This is definitely not bullying, this is ensuring that the error committed by few ignorants centuries ago is corrected and this timely amendment is being adopted by many and you may chose to deny it all you want.

one of the joes

@Simon, I said that I differentiate between people and the government.
I said that the Iranian government is a set of mullahs running a totalitarian system. they act without scruples. btw, you are aware that the key people actually are not Iranians?
And I suggest you take a long look in the mirror before you continue talking about public intelligence given the role that UK played and continues to play in this and other parts of the world. Did you ever hear about WMD in Iraq? But again, there are folks in the government and behind it - and then there are the people. I differentiate in the UK as much as I do in Iran. may be you give it a try?

Simon Barton

Nobody is discussing the few good guys here and there and they are an exception by the way. I am not an Iranian myself but please do not even attempt to make Iran a victim here, that is just preposterous and an insult to the public's intelligence. You just have to watch the news to realize Iran's destructive involvement in Bahrain, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine, Iraq, Turkey and the list is quite long actually. There are so many other causes more worthy of our solidarity and support, definitely not Iran.

one of the joes

@Fahd, did I hit your nerves? I am not Iranian, but I know the country and the people. I have enormous respect for the people, their level of education, their kindness of hearts - and I differentiate between people & government.

Sadly, your rambling lacks any rationale.

Iran has become a victim of political games of the western world before you had a country, eg. the taking down of democratically elected president Mossadegh, 1953. They had democratic developments 106 years ago - back then it's been Russia who interfered. But I understand that this may be beyond your focus of interest. You only want to look at today with Mullahs sadly running a totalitarian system.

Call the Gulf anyway you like, future will tell how people will call it 100 years from now.
You and I are just dust in the wind, not important.

Regarding export of terror, rethink your words as you may have missed the point where terrorists primarily come from. Before you shout, it's not the UAE & not Iran.

Zahdan

Welcome to the golden shores of the Arabian Gulf. It is a bitter pill to swallow and frankly speaking it cannot be sugar coated. This is the Arabian Gulf and as long as you are in the Arabian Gulf you have absolutely no choice but to gracefully learn to deal with this bitter fact instead of sniveling in public!

Mike Jones

@Ridwan , are these the same maps that show occupied territories where Israel is ? Or ones printed in Sharjah?
Last time I looked UNGEGN was the authority on the naming convention. http://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/ungegn/default.html

Red Sea is the Arabian Gulf , in case you need one to go with your Arabian Sea and Arabian Nights and Arabian Horse and Arabian Coffee and Arabian what ever.
Red Sea is a direct translation of the Greek Erythra Thalassa (?????? ???????) and Latin Mare Rubrum (alternatively Sinus Arabicus, literally "Arabian Gulf"), Arabic Al-Ba?r Al-A?mar (????? ??????) or Ba?r Al-Qalzam(??? ??????),
Do you actually know the difference between a Sea and a Gulf.
Last , have a look http://maps.google.co.uk/ still Persian Gulf ! They probably show you guys something different, let say for "commercial" reasons .

Khaled

@ Red Snappa, i cant help but correct your erroneous assumption, the UAE and The Arabian Gulf as a whole are never a "safe haven" for rogue countries under sanctions!!!

Red Snappa

Perhaps the longer this debate goes on the more damaging it becomes to UAE's reputation as a "safe haven", with increasing tensions on what is virtually the front doorstep. The more the issue inflates and claims headline news status, the greater the deterrent in terms of investment and the economic impact.

Not looking at in the same way, if you happen to be Dubai or Abu Dhabi-based, but from an external perception it no doubt would appear to represent an element of insecurity.

The US is fighting fires on an increasingly widening series of fronts and sanction hobbled Iran is becoming increasingly desperate.


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